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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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EFI Upper Intake

I am looking for a EFI 460 Upper Intake for my EFI conversion. I want to adapt it to a 4 barrel carb intake manifold.
Does anyone have one to sell?
Does anyone have a picture of one, on or off the motor?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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If you're talking the "Gooseneck" upper, I probably have at least one in the attic.

Two pictures of the upper, with 'things' attached to it.


Here it is flipped down:


not the best pictures... but will give you at least the idea of it's shape. A friend of mine used one of these on a hemi crate motor, making a simple aluminum adaptor from the bottom of the ford 460 upper intake gooseneck, to the carb pad on the hemi's intake. Poor guy did it by hand too... sabre saw, drill press, dremel. But it worked well and allowed him to graft EFI to his 528 hemi crate engine.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:45 AM
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Yes, that is what I need. I plan to do the same as your friend. I plan to make an aluminum adapter with hand tools for a EFI conversion 4 barrel intake on my Ford 400 motor and mount a 2003 Mustang Cobra 2 barrel TB.

The upper intake in the picture looks like it has been modified. It has one or two single barrel TBs mounted on it?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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Naaah, I didn't modify the gooseneck at all. None, zero, zip.



What you see in the pics is the bone-stock gooseneck with other stuff attached to it. Since I'm building a 500cid, twin turbo EFI stroker, I realized quickly that the dual throttle body (as in the above picture) probably won't flow enough, and I wanted the inlets of the throttle bodies to face somewhat outward, at the outlets of the turbochargers. So, I removed the factory throttle body and the bracketry and such, and welded together a bolt-on dual-throttle body adaptor. My first version used GM throttle bodies which you can see in the first three pics of my initial post. I decided not to use GM EFI and learn the Ford EEC system, so I rebuilt my adaptor plenum to use a pair of 4.6L throttle bodies, with a homemade plenum, which looks like this. Since it's a forward facing picture, you can't really see the gooseneck, but it's there.

 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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You are doing some pretty cool work there Frederic. I thought that I am innovative, but not compared to you. I am only using a 5.0 L EEC-IV system to convert my 400 motor to EFI. Since the 400 never got EFI, I have to 'borrow' from other motors. So far I have an all Ford system, including a Ford Lightning MAF and Cobra TB. I only need a way to mount my TB to an EFI conversion intake, and the conversion intake itself. Then the fun begins. I will take my carb manifold off a good running motor and install the conversion intake and all the sensors, harness, and ECU. Then try to tune it with all the new parts. This is planned for winter, when my '53 F100 is garaged.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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Sad for me I've done this twice... I'm fairly familiar with the GM EFI systems, just beacuse I've used it on two projects thus far, both turbocharged. It's easily hacked, chips are dirt cheap, and the software to edit the calibrations is free or dirt cheap depending on your choice. But, since my truck is a Ford, and I'm adding a ton of digital ford stuff (digital cluster, digital climate control front and rear blah blah blah) I've found that all this fancy town-car stuff doesn't want to talk to GM stuff, so I've decided midstream to do up a mass-air EEC system. So, the wiring harness I made from scratch in the truck got unsnaked bumper to bumper, the factory harness put back in, with additional wiring that I've added in the body. The 5.8L is still there as the 500cid isn't ready yet, so I'm putting around with a zillion extra connectors inside and out, hanging down. Eventually this stuff will be useful

here's the main project site, if you're interested. I update it occasionally, but I'm much further ahead than the website indicates... I just haven't gotten around to updating it because I've been distracted by too many other things... http://www.midimonkey.com/~frederic/index.html

We have a newborn, I had to cut off and weld in new metal on the crewcab to pass inspection, because I need the truck to pick up gravel and sand for the new patio (which I just finished digging out by hand across several weeks), and the "cut off the rust" project with the crewcab ended up taking forever, not because the rust on the body/bed was bad - it wasn't - but with the truck apart scattered all over the lawn I decided now is a good time to sandblast the frame, seal it, and paint it. And while replacing the rusty front fenders with brand new, freshly painted fenders (which I painted several times because I have to paint outside, and I kept getting pollen in the paint ) I discovered the radiator support was essentially missing, so I had to tear in further, and replace that. Then I accidentially punctured my radiator because I left it on the ground on a piece of wood to protect it's underside, and a large branch decided to fall off for no reason at all, landing on the 2 y/o radiator. Anyway, you get the idea

I replied to your email BTW.

My friend's 528 hemi crate engine now has a 10-72 blower on it. Probably oversized, but now his little vastly stripped down Nova II twists like a pretzel during any kind of acceleration. Yes, you read that correctly, an roots-style supercharged 528 crate engine (with EFI) in a chevy.

it's one of those "I got this engine cheap from a guy who never finished his project" combined with a "This nova has been sitting out back for years unloved, cool, I found the title!" and "hey, a $45 rebuilt torqueflite with no reserve on ebay, 30 miles from the shop" kind of project
 
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