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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Around here (Minn)most every hardware store carries 5-20 in Havoline, Valvoline, Mobil 1 and others, by the bottle or by the case. And I believe they all meet Ford Specs. Read the label to make sure.

The big "farm" stores have it too and of course the Ford dealer.
 
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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This is from Amsoil's website. I am sure they would not put it there if it was not approved or true. Lawsuit rings a bell.

XLM 5W-20 Synthetic Motor Oil

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API SM/CF, SL, SJ ...
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ILSAC GF-4, 3 ...
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ACEA A1/B1
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JASO VTW
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GM 6094M
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Ford WSS-M2C930-A
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Daimler Chrysler MS-6395N
 
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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take a closer look at what they say in the ad it says use the oil where these specs are required nor does it ever say it is api sm rated it just says it meets api service sm. amsoil is very good at screwing with people minds i will never buy there oil just because of that and its a MLM company.
 
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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FWIW... recently bought an 02 SCrew w/ 5.4L... sticker on window stated 10w30 (changed @ the stealership)... two weeks ago changed filter & oil (5w20 Mobil) and now i'm getting nearly 2 mpg increase
 
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Yes, for some reason Wally World doesn't sell the Motorcraft oil any more. Rumor has it that Ford wanted to support their dealers, who couldn't (or wouldn't) compete at $1.42 a quart. It is a great oil, but as others have said, there are alternatives.

Whenever I run through the Motorcraft I bought at close-out, I'll probably go with this new Mobil 7500.
 
Old Jul 1, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cleevesj
This is from Amsoil's website. I am sure they would not put it there if it was not approved or true. Lawsuit rings a bell.

XLM 5W-20 Synthetic Motor Oil

*
API SM/CF, SL, SJ ...
*
ILSAC GF-4, 3 ...
*
ACEA A1/B1
*
JASO VTW
*
GM 6094M
*
Ford WSS-M2C930-A
*
Daimler Chrysler MS-6395N
Here are the ONLY Amsoil products that are API certified!!! Bottom line, stay away from Amsoil, or any other MLM company!!!

http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0995

B.T.W. XLM 5W-20 IS NOT API certified!!!
 
Old Jul 1, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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bottom line amsoil is snake oil.
 
Old Jul 4, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Ford went to 5-20 to meet government mileage specs; oil clearances in the engines have not changed. 002 is the basic spec. for bearing clearance. If you want to use 5-20, use synethic; if not use 10-30
 
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Question Mileage Specs?

Originally Posted by waimea55
Ford went to 5-20 to meet government mileage specs; oil clearances in the engines have not changed. 002 is the basic spec. for bearing clearance. If you want to use 5-20, use synethic; if not use 10-30
What mileage specs? I don't think their plan is working. What kind of mileage would I be getting with 10-30? I sure don't need to use more gas then I do now. I ave. about 11.5 towing and 13.5 empty using 5-20. I am not in love with Ford Motor Co., however I don't think they are that bad that they'd reduce the life of our engines for some quarter of a mile per gallon or something. If they would stoop to that, I want nothing to do with them! IF true this would be my last Ford.
BTW I am very happy with my '05 SD V10. Had it since March 1 and have 6000 plus miles on it.
 
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Originally Posted by waimea55
Ford went to 5-20 to meet government mileage specs; oil clearances in the engines have not changed. 002 is the basic spec. for bearing clearance. If you want to use 5-20, use synethic; if not use 10-30

there is no need to use a 5w20 synthetic just use a regular 5w20.
 
Old Jul 5, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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my 2004 f-150 owner's manual only recommends synthetic 5W-20.
 
Old Jul 5, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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all manufacturers are working hard to meet the government specifications for mileage. going to 5-20 rather than 10-30 may give a small increase in mph but when factored in to the entire production of vehicles, every little bit helps.

I realize that all manufacturers have a vested interest in their engines lasting; if an engine fails, the owner will blame the manufacturer rather than the oil. Still,when it hits 100 plus degress in the summer, that 5W-20 seems a little weak. 2004 Ford F-150 owner's manual specifies synthetic oil. Synthetic oil handles temperature extreems better than petroleum based oils.

bottom line: changing oil regularly is as important, if not more so, than the type of oil used.
 
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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I use 5w-20 in my '99 Taurus 68k miles and 5w-30 in my '93 I6 121K miles, all year round.
That what Ford recommends and it's a non issue for me.
 
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Question How hot does the oil get?

These engines are cooled by liquid and temp is maintained pretty much the same in -40 or +100. If the cooling system is working properly the "liquid" including the anti-freeze and the oil should remain close to the same temp. Summer or Winter. Overloading the engine by towing too heavy,racing and or working it to hard in the mountains is another story because you may overwhelm the cooling system.
So... if 5-20 is correct it should be correct in all seasons. Does Ford tell you to change to a heavier oil if you live in South Texas or Phoenix or use a lighter oil yet if you live in Fairbanks AK?
 
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Sorry guys but heavy oils do not ruin a modular engine.

The cobra R 5.4 dohc is speced for 15w50 oil in the crankcase.

For your daily driver 4.6/5.4 5w20 or 5w30 is fine.

0w20, 0w30, same deal, thats fine also.
 



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