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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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My guage is sadly accurate.. and if your on the highway you'll see the needle drop.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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my truck has almost this same problem except it jumps up to full instead of going to empty. So i need a new sending unit too????
-Logan
 
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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If the gauge works ok for a portion of its range and then goes to empty it's most likely a break in the resistance wire inside the sender. Erratic operation can be wear in the sender "wiper" arm where it contacts the resistance wire, in the sender internal ground path or poor electrical connections external to the tank. Inaccuracies over and above the built-in inaccuracies due to tank shape can be due to poor connections, bad floats, bent float arms, or the wrong replacement sender installed in the tank.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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my 86 250 only has single side tank. my question is can i add second tank and how much trouble would it be?
 
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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Both of my tanks read only the top half, when it says empty I usally still have 8-9 gallons left. I went to the scrap yard and got a speedo with the trip odometer in it. Now I just know to either swap tanks, or fill up every 150 miles.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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my truck was reading good when i put a new sender in but about a week ago it reads between 3/4 and 1/2 when full and when it shows empty it will take about 8 gallons.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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85F_150driver,
Sounds like your float has a leak, maybe a bad solder joint on the seam.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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probsbly does have some issue. I put it in about a year ago after i discoverd my old one leaking at the elbow. got it from ford for a little over 60 dollars. maybe next weekend i will drop the tank and see whats up.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Piffery1
I have the JC Whitney sending unit on my '83 F350 with 22 gallon mid-ship (outside frame) tank. Its five screw mounting matched my tank exactly. Don't know if you could convert a Ford sender to use the Whitney electrical parts though. When mounting the unit you have to adjust the float arm length and pivot point position. At Empty I have ~3 gallons remaining and at 20 gallons guage reads Full. Can't remember exactly but I think 13 gallons registerd 1/2. The resistance part of this era Ford gauges (0-80 Ohms) are all the same I think so you can swap those parts around but float arms vary considerably. If you take one apart be very careful; the resistance wire is very, very fragile. On all 0-80 Ohm Ford sending unit (oil pressure, fuel, water temp) 73 Ohms make the gauge read at low mark and 10 Ohms at high mark according to my ford manual.
Thanks for the info. Any info on why all gauges go to max? All gauges will sometimes peg (fuel, temp, & oil press.) for about 3 to 30 seconds or so then return to normal. Alternator gauge doesn't change, it appears to be normal. This happens at different times and for no set lenght of time. Have replaced instrument voltage regulator with new Ford parts with no change.Have checked wiring and grounds. This happens on my 87 T-Bird Turbo Coupe And 85 F-150 4X4 and other Fords from 80 to 90 models I have seen.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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mopar,
It just about has to be something in common with the instrument panel voltage regulator. My guess is the ground circuit through the printed wiring connector on rear of instrument panel is intermittent. If the regulator loses its ground its output would go to full battery voltage and likely cause the gauges to go to maximum. I'd try running a separate ground wire from the instrument voltage regulator mounting tab to the cab metal.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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I took both tank sensors out repaired the holes in the float, cleaned resistor trace and wiper and calibrated with the service manual procedure. When I filled the tank my readings we 2 gallons got the needle to the E (20 miles before dry in my guzzler). Half tank was 9.5 gallons 3/4 was 14 gallons. From the 3/4 to F reads any where from E to F because the circuit resistance trace is worn out at that area. Also cleaned the contacts on the dash flex circuit. After years of guessing when the tanks were empty. I now know exactly when I'll run out of gas and I push it everyday now that gas is above 2.10.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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my front tank works great to about a quarter tank... then it reads empty. the rear tank doesnt read at all, just a dead needle. to tell you the truth i dont care much whether it works or not, since i'll never drive it far enough to use a whole tank in one trip.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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Mopar,

Mine does the same thing, I've been lazy though and just hit the top of the dash and the ground connection returns.

I was thinking about getting a new circut board to fix it though.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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The guage reads backwards on the front tank in my F250... below empty is full, and 3/4's of a tank is you shoulda got gas 5 miles ago... LOL
My 81, the guage is sort of accurate up to 1/4 tank, from there up, well, 90% of the time, it doesn't go past 1/4... I figure the sender is probably worn and the truck was re-fueled at 1/4 tank most of the time.
 

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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My '84 had a bad tank sender due to the idiot that worked on the alternator regulator wiring. He shorted the regulator and caused about 18 volts to run rampant thru the electrical system for a day or so. Burned out most of the lights in the display, and the turn signal flashers. When he finally fixed it, the charge light no longer worked. He had 'engineered' the alternator wiring harness for a gauge system into this truck. Idiot. When I bought the truck, I pulled an alternator harness from an 81 / w/light, and installed it along with the correct regulator that I found under the seat.

I drove this truck for 12 years with no gas gauge. I kept track of the gas by checking the odometer. BTW: The speedometer didnt work either, when I got it. Same mechanic. He messed up the speedometer gears in the transmission when he didn't properly remove the tail-shaft bearing. The bearing just slopped alover the place.

He is still in "business." I dont go there at all.
 
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