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Old May 30, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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C6 shift issues

my 88 superduty diesel 4X4 now has almost 300 miles on it since the swap from 5 speed to C6. everything is fine with it except for a late/hard shift on wot due to low vacuum. if you use up to 3/4 throttle, it shifts smooth and on time, but at wot it will not shift till you let off, and then it is hard. i have 17 lbs vacuum at idle, and 2 lbs at wot. according to the service manual, it should be 5-6 lbs at wot. the vacuum control valve on the injector pump is adjusted as far as it will go. any ideas ???
 
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Old May 31, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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You can try backing the screw in the modulator off a few turns.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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If you have the kickdown rod hooked up and adjusted properly, you will not get an upshift to 3rd. When the kickdown is activated (WOT) the valve body will not allow 3rd gear.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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If you have the kickdown rod hooked up and adjusted properly, you will not get an upshift to 3rd. When the kickdown is activated (WOT) the valve body will not allow 3rd gear.
What?
I don't know where you get your information from but that is incorrect.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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ok stuart, thanks. what way should i turn the modulator adjuster screw, clockwise, or counter?? and is it an allenscrew, or torx??
this is all new to me, everything i have ever had has had a stick in it except for my crown vic, and that is still under warrenty, but i doubt anything is gonna go wrong with it before that runs out.
 

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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The way I was taught in Ford schools back in the 70's when c6 was the primary transmission is NO 3rd gear when the kickdown is at wide open throttle and that is the way the valve body is designed.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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rclarke you are wrong with your concept.
No matter what transmission you have it will shift into 2nd, 3rd, 4th or whatever gear is the top range. No matter how far down you have the pedal.
However some vehicles don't have enough jam to turn the engine fast enough to allow centrifugal force of the governor to overcome throttle pressure.

The screw is turned counter clockwise to lower shifts. It is just a small flat bladed screw driver.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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Try turning the modulator screw a half-turn CCW and drive it. If it is still not right, give it another half-turn. The screw is in the hole where the vaccuum line connects. Be gentle.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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C6 kickdown is not a throttle pressure valve like AOD or some other transmissions. It is a mechanical downshift valve. If you want only throttle pressure control of downshifts remove the kickdown rod and use only the vacumn modulator for kickdown.
 
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the problem is not with passing gear, it is with upshifts. passing gear works fine.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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I'd have to agree that the governor would eventually win over the kick down rod. Perhaps an adjustment of the modulator with a pressure gauge hooked into the tranny would help him out some.
 
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