Excursion Replacement Wish List
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Excursion Replacement Wish List
The Excursion had one technical thing going for it (other than brand related) and that was a half-way modern gas engine and the choice of a diesel engine vs. the competition. It's downfall from my perspective was that it had some serious shortcomings when compared to it's only real competition of the Yukon XL/Suburban:
1) a dismal payload - A diesel XLT had only about a 1500# payload and the V10 less than 1800* vs. 2300# for the competition gasser. My 25' travel trailer and family of 6 overloaded the vehicle - go figure.
2) a poor ride - the ride of the GM twins is much smoother and not so stiff. If the stiff ride came with, say, a decent payload, then that's a good trade-off - but it didn't.
If they can fix those two things in the next one and keep a turbo-diesel, I'd love to switch back to Ford. You think they'll address these things?
1) a dismal payload - A diesel XLT had only about a 1500# payload and the V10 less than 1800* vs. 2300# for the competition gasser. My 25' travel trailer and family of 6 overloaded the vehicle - go figure.
2) a poor ride - the ride of the GM twins is much smoother and not so stiff. If the stiff ride came with, say, a decent payload, then that's a good trade-off - but it didn't.
If they can fix those two things in the next one and keep a turbo-diesel, I'd love to switch back to Ford. You think they'll address these things?
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I hope the still use the super duty powertrains (6.0, 6.8L 3V). It would be nice to see an IRS, but a really good one, like the H1 uses. Either that or keep it a live axel (all the way around). I don't think that the IRS from the Expy will be good in a vehicle that large and with that much torque.
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Does the X really weigh a lot more than an F250? It does have a higher GVW, and with my f250 I can load 2900 pounds in the bed. As to the GM riding smoother, I dunno. The 1500 series does, but the 2500 doesn't IMO, has alot more body lean, and less room inside. just my .02.
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The 2500 Suburban & Yukon XL ride better than the pickups, if that's what you're talking about. They have a lot less lean than the 1500, too. Seems that the Excursions I've been in were worse than the Pickups, IMO. The different front spring rates maybe??? Dunno.
I have a buddy with a F-250 SuperCab Diesel that weighs 7200 empty and he only has the 8600 GVWR. Last Excursion XLT test I saw weiged in at 7800 lbs, so about 600 pounds for the body and glass over the rear, the third seat and all, plus the larger rear doors and all sounds reasonable to me. I doubt any of them are wrong on their weights since they were all on calibrated scales (or at least I am assuming so for the tested vehicle, not my buddies which I know was.)
I just can't wait for Ford to have a good competitive vehicle for large families like mine that have heavy hitch trailers. I'm drooling just thinking about it.
I have a buddy with a F-250 SuperCab Diesel that weighs 7200 empty and he only has the 8600 GVWR. Last Excursion XLT test I saw weiged in at 7800 lbs, so about 600 pounds for the body and glass over the rear, the third seat and all, plus the larger rear doors and all sounds reasonable to me. I doubt any of them are wrong on their weights since they were all on calibrated scales (or at least I am assuming so for the tested vehicle, not my buddies which I know was.)
I just can't wait for Ford to have a good competitive vehicle for large families like mine that have heavy hitch trailers. I'm drooling just thinking about it.
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I am seriously bummed that they are no longer making the X after 2005. It think is THE best SUV out there!
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see my gallery for the size of the trailer I pulled with my Excursion.
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Thanks it hauls my SuperKarts and well anything that rolls (I have a number of different things)...I do love my dually, now....I dislike pickups...but it is growing on me.
If you noticed I tried to make it look my X
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