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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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My Dad is a DIEHARD Chevy guy. He is looking to trade in his 94 Suburban on something newer. I have been pushing for the Expedition. He won't hear it. Even though he has driven mine and admitted he liked it. Here is the heartbreaking part---He is leaning toward the toyota sequoia. He is dealing with a real slick salesman, too. The sequoia is a 2003. Can anything bad be said about the sequoia? What are some things I can tell my father to straighten him out? I would rather see him buy a Yukon or a Tahoe than that toyota! Help me out, salesmen-and anyone else!--------Ryan
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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The sequoia is a nice vehicle.

All I can go by is experience and my bought new 2000 tundra has never been to the dealer or any other service center(other than for tires). Only 94k miles, time will tell but I can't say the same for my 99 Expedition.(92k)

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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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I think your only argument would be on price. He can probably buy the Ford or Chevy cheaper or buy them newer for the same price.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Recent Toyota Recall

Safety Recall - May 17th, 2005
Toyota Motor Corp., in one of its largest safety recalls ever, said Tuesday it is recalling more than 750,000 pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles because of problems with the front suspension that could hinder steering. The company said the recall covers 774,856 vehicles in the United States, including the 2001-2004 model years of the Tacoma, the 2001-2002 versions of the 4Runner and the 2002-2004 model years of the Tundra and Sequoia. Toyota said the surface of a ball joint which connects to the front suspension may have been scratched when it was manufactured, which could lead to wear and tear over time. Any excessive wear or looseness in the joint could force drivers to exert more effort when steering, allow the vehicle to drift and increase the amount of noise from the suspension.

Ming-Jou Chen, a Toyota spokeswoman, said the company had confirmed six cases in which the condition existed in the suspension. There have been no injuries associated with the problems. Toyota said it planned to conduct a similar recall of the affected vehicles in Canada, Japan, Australia and other countries, but did not immediately have the number of vehicles that would be covered outside the U.S. Chen said it was one of the largest recalls in company history. In 1992, Toyota recalled about 550,000 Camrys from the 1987-1990 model years because of the potential for power door locks to malfunction and lock passengers out of or inside the vehicles. In 2002, the company recalled nearly 400,000 subcompact and minicar vehicles exported to the United States, Europe and Canada because of improperly designed brake fluid pipes. In Tuesday's recall of trucks and SUVs, owners will be notified beginning in July and will be able to have the problem fixed at no cost, Chen said.


http://tundrasolutions.com/

Heard about this on the news the other night.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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It's a tough job raising parents...! My neighbor had a sequoia and wound up trading it for an expedition, said the sequoia had nothing but problems with rattles, squeaks and little things thta just kept adding up, this must a been a Monday or Friday built vehicle.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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Well,

I will give Toyota some cred for taking care of this recall. I am not sure I'd still take the chance of getting a piston-slapper GM truck. I am still seeing stories on other forums about stealerships (surprise) taking back lemons and shipping them to other stealers who rip those notices right off....Of course, GM diehard still thinks in the 21st century that even the 8.1L (much less the other LSX-based enignes) ought to "drink some oil" just because GM builds it.

My though....I have parents who are Chevy diehards, so go with the OLD body style only. Stepdad has a 2000 3/4-ton 454/auto, mom has a 98 1/2-ton 350/auto, dad has a 97 1/2-ton 350/auto. They have all been used when bought and still kicking. I am the rebel, naturally.

GM does have this stupid thing about wiring the brake lights thru the turn signal switch assembly....they have done that since the beginning of time and it wasn't a cheap fix on mom's truck. $160 to get that assembly fixed and replace that lousy taillamp circuit board.....

If pop wants Toyota, they aren't as good as the early-mid 90s brought 'em to us. The Sequoia is a Tundra with a back roof and Tundra's early on were not known for comfort.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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grrrr- post got launched into cyberspace. Anyway, the Sequioa is a nice truck that doesn't have any major vices, but doesn't display any compelling advantages against the full-sized competition- room, power, comfort, towing ability, and gas mileage are on par or below what others offer. Most surprisingly, it scored third behind the Chevy Tahoe and GMC Yukon in JD Powers mechanical reliability ratings survey.
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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grrrr- post got launched into cyberspace.
Got some funny finger things going on....
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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I would encourage him to make his own decision. If you talk him into anything else, anything that ever happens to it will be your fault. At least if he buys the Toyota and something happens to it, you can simply smile and he will know what you want to say and you don't even have to say anything.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Funny thing is, that Toyota will outlive him. Can't say that for any domestics.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Don't tell my F150 that- 12 years old, pushing 200K miles, original engine and transmission. We're gonna put some candles on the hood this summer and give it a party when it hits the big 200.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Sequoia is also the only vehicle name with all the vowels in it... Its got to be the right vehicle.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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I have a Sequoia... It's growing in a pot in the back yard!

I say let him make his own mistakes. It's much more satisfying that way. For example, my dad has a 2000 Chevy Silverado. It has the 4.8L V8. It gets 15mpg. It should get more, but there's nothing wrong with it. No computer codes, nothing. I put new plugs and plug wires on it, a new O2 sensor, everything I could think of. 15mpg. Now my new 400+HP FE390, gets 15mpg. I like to remind him of this fact often. Like I said, much more satisfying.
 
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