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Old May 21, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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Main Support Beam Repair or Replace

This question is about a garage... but however its more of a construction question!!!

I have a two stall garage with a stait slanted back roof, My main beam in the garage is sagging in the middle. The beam is made up of a couple 2x6's or possible 2x10's .... im not totally sure I never measured them... The beams are longer than 10' but again I never measured... they beam is atleast two 10' sections and a couple 4'or so sectoins at opposite ends. the two sections are nailed to each other ...

I was looking for other options other than replacing the beam...

How about jacking up the the center of the sagging beam... and taking a piece of say 3/4" plywood and placing it on both sides of the beam... then drill some say... 1/2" or 3/4" holes through the plywood, the existing beams and the other piece of plywood. Then take a piece of threaded rod and pass it throught the hole, and washer and nut each side tight...

Any ideas... Im not a carpenter by any means.... but I was pondering this idea...

thanks for your help... if any....
 
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Old May 21, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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Have a carpenter look at it. You could call a Structural Engineer but that costs $$$. You may have to get a permit to "repair" the structure.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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Have a carpenter look at it. You could call a Structural Engineer but that costs $$$. You may have to get a permit to "repair" the structure.
Good advice.


It's impossible to say how to fix it without seeing it. If both sides are accessible as you implied, it may be repairable by adding plywood and additional 2x6/2x10 and nailing each layer, and then through bolting. But, if the ends are rotted, you may have no support where it's really needed. You really need to have a 'pro' look at it. It's very possible you have a dangerous (life threatening) situation here. I would want to know if the wood is rotting, was installed improperly, or if termites might be present. I suggest you not try to repair it without consulting a contractor, engineer, or architect, etc. At least get some expert advice (on site) before attempting a repair yourself.

In the meantime, you might want to put a jack or post under it to prevent it from getting worse, or even collapsing.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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the beam isnt sagging so bad that im worried the roof will collapse... but I know it hase at least a inch or two of drop in it...

I plan on consulting a contractor... but I was intrested in the groups input...

I know the beam is not rottten, or termite infested... Ive looked the beam over and poked and proded and found no damage outher than a sag....
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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What is the overall span of this built-up beam?
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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well I havent measured it .. but I can fit my mustang in the garage with a foot left at the door and at least two feet left at the other end... 84 1/2 mustang
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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With a 15 foot span, the weight the beam is supporting with shingles could be close to 2000 pounds. If it was me, I would jack it up and support it with multiple lolly columns. Then bolt a piece of high strength steel along the length and put steel support posts at each end that are lagged or sunk into the cement slab.

I would not try to jack it back into shape without a contractor doing it. If the beam snaps from the wood fibers breaking the whole structure could collapse including the walls. In which case I would think you would want to brace them with 2x4s nailed in three places to the interior studs and make sure the braces are nailed to each other in the middle of the garage.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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OK, I'm guessing no more than about a 12 foot span.

An inch or so sag in this distance would not be a great concern to me. HOWEVER, most likely this built-up beam was constructed incorrectly (nailed wrong, lap joints, etc.).

If the beam is only supporting a roof load, and given the fact that the span is only 12 feet, look for a correction by a contractor to involve either jacking the beam up and adding (to both sides of the beam) additional continuous lumber -or- replacing the beam altogether.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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an inch or two of sag in a 12' beam is of great concern, I'm in school now for engineering and can tell u that the biggest sag where allowed to use is L/360 which for you means a sag no bigger that .4 inches, I'd get an structural engineer in there to look at what went wrong, it's hard to say without seeing the complete structure, it good be a design issue, a building issue, or even a material issue
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Either way I would definitely support the beam now. If the wood is in good shape then You may be able to laminate it and strengthen it with steel or lumber.
It's important to know why this one sagged in the first place though. An engineer is not a bad idea, but a veteran carpenter can be very effective in that kind of situation also.
 
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Old May 22, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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dynamic,
Don't suppose you have a way to take and post a couple of pictures with overall dimensions.
As mentioned, anything near a 2 inch sag would be a major concern.
Probably caused by inferior roof decking, or moisture over time has gotten to it. Could be bad or undersized wood in first place I guess.

Best repair has already been suggested, jack it up, put steel plate on both sides, bolt in place.
I'd get this done sooner than later.
 
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