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Old May 14, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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Poor running at speed -

1977 F250 / 460 / Carter or Edelbrock carb...

Problems....starts hard...floods easily if you aren't careful. ( not really worried about this )

Once started it idles pretty well when cold and idles perfect when warm.

Accelerates great...although under hard acceleration ( when not fully warm ) it will stumble when the secondaries open. Otherwise, throttle response is pretty crisp for a big old truck.


When the engine is loaded ( acceleration, passing...etc ) it runs perfect. It is when you are just cruising that there are problems. And the problems aren't "big"....there is just a very minor studder or stumble when cruising ( at any speed - any RPM )...you can't really even feel the misfire...only hear it through the exhaust. If you lived on a farm and had old Farmall tractors around you many know what it sounds like...loaded they sounded fine but start rolling down a hill with a load behind you pushing you down a hill and the exhaust would make a dead misfire sound. Am I making a bit of sense?
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:12 AM
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The first thing I'd do is change the metering rods. What size carb do you have? Without knowing what size rods you have or what size carb you have, try .073 X 047 rods and go from there. You could also play around with different spring combo's as well.
Check to see if your timing is advancing when you rev it up. Your advance might be sticking a little when you lay into it.
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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Hoss....I know nothing about these carbs...let alone what the F a metering rod is. Would a photo of the carb help? Send me a PM with your email and I could email you some photos...or manybe you know of a web site that has some descriptions? Thanks
Mike
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Uhhh, sorry guy! If you go to Edelbrock's web site, they should be able to tell you which direction to go to with the tuning. A metering rod is one of the thing that controls the fuel going into the carb. The larger the metering rod, the LESS fuel going through the main jet and visa versa.
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Maybe I will throw my 600 Holley on it instead!
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by michaelbrainardatwor
Maybe I will throw my 600 Holley on it instead!
Now you're talking. I always use the "KISS" carbs. So much easier to tune. And changing metering rods without knowing if you are rich or lean is not a good idea. Same thing with main jets in the Holley. You need to run it where the engine stumbles of a minute or two and then shut the engine off, no idle time please, and check the plugs. They will tell you if rich or lean.
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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In your opinion...is a 750 Holley too large for the 460 with stock 4bbl intake?

BTW - Figured out why it starts hard..the choke wasn't working properly. Linkage is sticking somewhere. Close the choke and it starts the way it should.
 
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Old May 15, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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Yes, a 750 is to large. At 4500 RPMs a 460 only needs about 600 CFM, which by the way is what the factory puts on them. And after 4500 RPMs the stock cam is restricting air flow so bad that you loose, not gain power.
 
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