Exhaust routing
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Exhaust routing
Where did the original tail pipe exit on a 65 F100 2wd? My 65 F100 has a short tail pipe extending out of the muffler and ending in a short downward bend at the axle. I have to take it through a vehicle inspection and I've heard that the tail pipe has to clear the vehicle body so fumes don't back up and possibly leak into the cab, but if this orignally came with the tailpipe ending short of the body then I should be ok.
Laughing Gas
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From: Parkville, MO (KC)
Barry, Toque -- some did, some didn't. I am absolutely certain that mine was the kind that exhausted before the axel. The old farmers refused to have the pipe all the way out the back cause it caused trouble when they backed up, or used a lift to unload grain.
In any case, it came short from the dealer at least, and parts books list the short variety as well. I cannot prove that it came short from the factory I guess - it is possible the dealer shortened it, perhaps routinely in some parts of the country. But that is just a guess to explain why we differ here.
If you like it short, leave it that way and have a couple pages photocopied from a muffler/exhaust book at your local parts house to "show" the inspector that it is a recognized "option".
In any case, it came short from the dealer at least, and parts books list the short variety as well. I cannot prove that it came short from the factory I guess - it is possible the dealer shortened it, perhaps routinely in some parts of the country. But that is just a guess to explain why we differ here.
If you like it short, leave it that way and have a couple pages photocopied from a muffler/exhaust book at your local parts house to "show" the inspector that it is a recognized "option".
Cross-Country
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From: Greenville, SC
My old exhaust had a turn-down pipe after the muffler. I don't know if it was original or not, though.
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From: Connecticut
Alot of it depended on the individual's state laws. In Ct., They have to exit after the rear wheels. On larger trucks, it has to exit behind the cab. It's been that way for many years. Only recently have they allowed the exhaust to exit before the rear wheels. THe F-150 came out with the new body in 1997 and the first ones off the line had exhaust just before the rear wheel. Ford had a problem with the heat from the exhaust discoloring the center cap on the rim. THey came out with a retro fit exhaust that went back over the axle and did the left turn out the side.
I checked the parts books and you're correct on the short and long pipes. It really may have depended on the states laws. I'd look under your truck and see if there's any remnants of any factory hangars. You can tell the difference between a aftermarket and a factory hangar.
Barry
I checked the parts books and you're correct on the short and long pipes. It really may have depended on the states laws. I'd look under your truck and see if there's any remnants of any factory hangars. You can tell the difference between a aftermarket and a factory hangar.
Barry
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My old 65 352 was outfitted with a muffler the size of a ricer, went up and over the axle and exited behind the passenger side tire. I am about 99.9% sure that's your original configuration on these. Lucky for me it smoked like a train so I knew it was running...
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Toque and CD, I am from grain farmer central here (both my grandads and my dad and 3 uncles all farmed grain) and the only way I ever saw an F/M100 stock was out the rear, on the passenger's side behind the wheel. The Grain trucks over 1 ton dumped under the grain box.
I thought the '97s were way cool with those pipes in front of the wheel. Too bad that came to a close. Still see one like that once in a while that the guy didn't take back for the recall.
I thought the '97s were way cool with those pipes in front of the wheel. Too bad that came to a close. Still see one like that once in a while that the guy didn't take back for the recall.
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On my previous '66 I went from headers - collectors - over the x-member - mufflers and then downspouts. With a serious cam it stirred up way too much dirt from the ground and would give you a sand bath at the beach. I would consider doing the same again without the downspouts pointing directly down, but at an angle to the sides.
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Is anyone still doing any sort of dual exhaust conversions anymore? My suppliers (Walker, Dynomax, Merit and Goerlich's) all at one time offered dual conversions for most older pickups, but are nonexistent now. Last version of my Walker catalog showed dual stuff, but seemed like half the pipes for each system were obsolete numbers now. Newest version doesn't have dual diagrams anymore at all! Don't really want to have a system made for me, if I can find the major pieces to assemble myself (without stringing a dozen adapters and elbows together). Mostly I really want a set of over the axle, rear-exit pipes. Any ideas? Or does anyone have access to a Maremont exhaust catalog? I sold Maremont years ago, but no longer have a catalog in my collection. TomD
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From: Parkville, MO (KC)
Ringo -- I am only repeating what my Dad tells me about the truck, which he purchased new in 65 for $2000 plus $150 for the radio (can ya believe that!). My father is not yet inclined to poor memory or dishonesty, so I think I can believe him.
The aforementioned explanations are just what I have been told over the years, but in any case, the story is that it came that way.
I do wonder whether some dealer or areas of the country were altered or even shipped differently, which would explain the differences of opinions.
The aforementioned explanations are just what I have been told over the years, but in any case, the story is that it came that way.
I do wonder whether some dealer or areas of the country were altered or even shipped differently, which would explain the differences of opinions.
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From: Southern Alberta
CD. Being a man of integrity, I did not doubt you for a second. I was only relaying what happened in this corner or Western Canada, then.
$150 for a radio nust have been a fortune in 1965. Imagine paying that much for such a weak radio that ONLY got AM bands now.....
$150 for a radio nust have been a fortune in 1965. Imagine paying that much for such a weak radio that ONLY got AM bands now.....
Laughing Gas
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From: Parkville, MO (KC)
Yea, the radio was quite a luxury. Never worked, even when I was a kid. I had it gutted out and replaced with modern electronics. $400 -- relative to $150 in 65 that is a bargain I guess!
I was not taking any offense to your post -- I really do wonder if the exhaust thing varried from region to region or was even a local dealer specific thing. We may never know.
I was not taking any offense to your post -- I really do wonder if the exhaust thing varried from region to region or was even a local dealer specific thing. We may never know.
