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Hey all...I found something that will clean the carbon and oil deposits on internal engine parts like push rods, rocker arms, valves, etc. It's Hoppe's Powder Solvent. Think about it. It's designed to remove carbon depostis on the inside of gun barrels and gun aparts. I have a small bottle I use on my firearms and I tried it on the push rods from my engine. It cleaned them pretty well. I was impressed. It doesn't take a lot either. Just a little bit on a tooth brush and volla!! Just thought I share this with everyone. Later.....
Robert
1978 F-150 4x4 Stepside 351M
Please don't pull out in front of me! The last thing I want to do is play identify the pieces with you or your car.
Robert
1978 F-150 4x4 Stepside 351M
Please don't pull out in front of me! The last thing I want to do is play identify the pieces with you or your car.
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 11-Oct-01 AT 05:43 PM (EST)[/font][p]Ran a report on this stuff and it looks pretty lethal. Also not sure it is still available or else the formulation changed after 1989, the last date I could find info for. If this is the Nitro 9 version it contains:
Nitrobenzene 2%, Ethanol 30%, Ammonia 3%, unspecified Hydrocarbon oils 30%, inactive oil base 15%.
It will easily penetrate the skin and is toxic is small amounts, use with proper precautions. I imagine they sell it in fairly small quantities.
Nitrobenzene 2%, Ethanol 30%, Ammonia 3%, unspecified Hydrocarbon oils 30%, inactive oil base 15%.
It will easily penetrate the skin and is toxic is small amounts, use with proper precautions. I imagine they sell it in fairly small quantities.
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BTW I have seen Hoppes and Outers #9 in 1 gallon Cans, pretty cool can. I haven't looked for big cans lately, don't shoot near as much as I did when I was single, so can't tell you where to look.
I haven't tried this on my car parts, but like the other guy said, Yeah it makes sense. Better yet, the regular Hoppes and #9 are somewhat rust preventive too I think. Plus I like the smell. I think the big cans and bottles cost less per use than the automotive solvents. Just need a little bit, versus spray away a whole can of the other stuff.
I wouldn't use this stuff every where, like brakes, since it is a little greasy.
Jim Henderson
I haven't tried this on my car parts, but like the other guy said, Yeah it makes sense. Better yet, the regular Hoppes and #9 are somewhat rust preventive too I think. Plus I like the smell. I think the big cans and bottles cost less per use than the automotive solvents. Just need a little bit, versus spray away a whole can of the other stuff.
I wouldn't use this stuff every where, like brakes, since it is a little greasy.
Jim Henderson
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Don't quote me on this but there were two versions of both Hoppes and Outers #9. There was the regular old stuff, which I would probably be OK using on engines and stuff, I am guessing no worse than other automotive solvents, also nasty stuff.
The other version is usually a copper solvent version, which smells like a very different formula. I would not recommend those for automotive use since I think they are are mildly corrosive if left on the part long enough.
I am not a chemist(and certainly not an expert) and do not know what is in any of these, at least not off the top of my head, but like most other solvents they are hazardous if you don't follow directions. The key thing is to use plenty of ventilation with most if not all solvents. Gloves and glasses are not a bad idea either.
I have been using these solvents in large quantities for well over 30 years, and other than forgetting my name and drooling a bit, I think I am normal. Caveat Emptor, read the lable(of any solvent), don't believe this solvent sotted fool(me).
Jim Henderson
The other version is usually a copper solvent version, which smells like a very different formula. I would not recommend those for automotive use since I think they are are mildly corrosive if left on the part long enough.
I am not a chemist(and certainly not an expert) and do not know what is in any of these, at least not off the top of my head, but like most other solvents they are hazardous if you don't follow directions. The key thing is to use plenty of ventilation with most if not all solvents. Gloves and glasses are not a bad idea either.
I have been using these solvents in large quantities for well over 30 years, and other than forgetting my name and drooling a bit, I think I am normal. Caveat Emptor, read the lable(of any solvent), don't believe this solvent sotted fool(me).
Jim Henderson
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Wal-mart, K-mart, your local sporting goods shop will have it. It's very easy to get. It's called Hoppe's Nitro Powder Solvent No.9. It comes in a 4oz. brown bottle with a yellow label. You dont' really have to wear gloves or anything for doing small things. I never do, but if you are going to use it in mass quantities I would wear gloves.
Robert
1978 F-150 4x4 Stepside 351M
Please don't pull out in front of me! The last thing I want to do is play identify the pieces with you or your car.
Robert
1978 F-150 4x4 Stepside 351M
Please don't pull out in front of me! The last thing I want to do is play identify the pieces with you or your car.
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Thanks for the fun reminder Rocky. I remember coming in off the ranges during basic training at Fort Lewis, both us and the M16s covered with mud. We found that if you showered with the weapon it would get the mud off a lot quicker than doing it on your bunk with a cloth. But don't forget, we had plastic stocks - and you better oil it well, drill seargent don't like rusty weapons in his platoon. :-)
Raul
w/ 81 F-100, I6, SROD, Carter 1V non-feedback carb, no A/C, no PS, no PB, but it gets me where I need to go
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w/ 81 F-100, I6, SROD, Carter 1V non-feedback carb, no A/C, no PS, no PB, but it gets me where I need to go
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Dunno about that, I think I'll reserve it for my shootin' iron...
I picked up a whole gallon of parts cleaner for $12.00 (I think it was) and whilte using it I noticed it took off paint, adhesives, and you name it in just under 45 seconds.
Anything I can't deal with using that and a wire wheel might as well go through a hot tank for a coupla dollars.
~ Although I have wondered what a set of etched and blued valve covers would look like!
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I picked up a whole gallon of parts cleaner for $12.00 (I think it was) and whilte using it I noticed it took off paint, adhesives, and you name it in just under 45 seconds.
Anything I can't deal with using that and a wire wheel might as well go through a hot tank for a coupla dollars.
~ Although I have wondered what a set of etched and blued valve covers would look like!
>=oP
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I use regular parts cleaning solvent in a parts cleaner for engine and transmission parts, stuff like that. And I have tried the different brands of carb cleaner you buy in the gallon can, but have never been impressed with what is available for carbs out there. If you ever have to soak a carb or other small parts and get them REALLY clean make a trip to an auto body supply house and get a gallon of paint spray gun cleaner. It's about $20 a gallon, but well worth it. I've put some really carboned up, crusty looking carbs in this stuff, let it soak a while, and it comes out looking like new castings with NO effort. It is definitely some potent stuff, but it really does a job!
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I use the Castrol cleaner, it comes in a purple gallon jug, and I paid $5.00 at Wal-mart(On sale, regullarly $8.00). It works real well, and removed all the carbon deposits in my 300. It even removed a layer of skin on my hands, so wear rubber gloves. It is all bio-degradeable too. I was quite impressed with the results.
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LASTCHANCE:
Do me a favor and read the label on that stuff. The part about the active ingredients...
I'd almost bet my last dollar that you will find "METHYLETHYLKEYTONE" somewhere on it (MEK).
Their used to be stuff available with Chlorinated Hydrocarbons in the mixture, and it was enough to attack aluminum castings if they were left in it too long.
But purely out of curiousity, find out for me, okay?
~ Wolf
Do me a favor and read the label on that stuff. The part about the active ingredients...
I'd almost bet my last dollar that you will find "METHYLETHYLKEYTONE" somewhere on it (MEK).
Their used to be stuff available with Chlorinated Hydrocarbons in the mixture, and it was enough to attack aluminum castings if they were left in it too long.
But purely out of curiousity, find out for me, okay?
~ Wolf
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In reply to jim henderson, Hoppes nitro solvent does smell good don't it? I thought I was wierd ir something, (and might still be) but I have always wished that someone would make a perfume with that smell! Man that girl would have to pry me off of her with a crow bar!
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1978 F100 Custom
320 horsepower 302
C6, 9 inch
Ford Motorsports E303 cam
GT 40 P heads
Crane roller rockers
Weiand Stealth Intake
Edelbrock 600 cfm carb
full length headers
More mods to come!
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Whoo hoo, I have been tempted to slather some Hoppes onto my wife, but I usually get thrown into the garage along with "the rest of that old junk, ya sicko". Shame more people don't appreciate the smell. I think a lot of us guys buy solvents and oils because they smell good. My 7 and 9 year old boys ARE being raised the right way tho, they like the smell too. ;^)
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