no problem, I'm easy going!

I have to admit, I like your sig that is a great saying!!

 

so greystreak92, u have a lifted bronco with the TTB set up? you say u havn't had any alienment problems? do u take it off road, and what kind of off roading if u do? all i really want to know is how it preforms off road, the strenght, and the tire wear on the street?

 

I personally decided to spend a good deal of time researching the lift I would actually install since I too had heard all of the nightmare stories about TTB alignment. I finally decided to go with Tuff Country's 4" suspension lift with complete new rear springs as well. I went with their kit because the radius arms and axle pivot bolts EACH have an adjustment of 2.25* to either caster (radius arms bolts) or camber (axle pivot bolts) These adjustments can be doen independantly of each other and will not affect the others. The OEM ball joint bushings will only allow a certian amount of caster adjustment before the camber is effected and vice-versa. The Tuff Country lift allows BOTH the OEM bushings AND their own separate caster and camber adjustments to be used to bring the front end into alignment. This is WHY I put this lift under the truck.

How well did it work? Beautifully. I had replaced all four ball joints prior to installing the lift because they were worn and allowing the tires to "cup" because the balljoints wouldn't hold proper camber. So, with that and new outer tierod ends, the lift was installed (by myself and a few friends) and aligned (by a local pro). He said that the OEm bushings would have been enough on their own to align it properly but the separate adjusters for caster and camber for each front wheel made it very easy to "dial in". As for strength, I haven't broken anything yet. I make routine trips to Tellico ORV park and several "local" sites in and around southern MO. Tire wear has never been an issue. I do monitor the front tires closely just in case I do damage or bend something up under the front. This is the first place you are most likely to actually SEE a problem like that manifest itself. In short, I've had no problems with alignment or uneven tire wear as a result of lifting the TTB. Now I will tell you that I used NO spacers, NO blocks, NO add-a-leafs in the lift. The entire lift is accomplished with longer, stronger, springs and radius arms. Blocks and spacers will crush down over time and cause sag all over the place. I also double checked with my lift manufacturer to make absolutely certain that the front springs I was buying had been fully scragged before they were sold to me. Basically this means the manufacturer takes the time to "squish" the springs for a week or so as far as they can be compressed. Doing this alleviates the most common problem that most people face with new coil springs. Loss of spring height! if the spring is made, painted and shipped and has never been compressed in its life, by the time the full weight of the truck sits on it for a few months to a year, the springs will begin to sag. This creates endless headaches with alignment because what had been correct when the springs were first installed falls out of camberbecause the spring no longer expands as far as it did when it was first installed. I think you can understand why buying springs that have been fully scragged for at least a week or more is pretty vital.

The lifted TTB under my truck performs very well both off and on pavement. I do get a bit of bump-steer that is common with this setup but its nothing I haven't learned to adapt my driving to compensate for. And if I ever feel ambitious I may install Superlift's Superunner Steering linkage in place of the original setup to alleviate this little annoyance. I've rambled on for a bit now but what I have endeavored to put forth here is a lot of the info that I had to seek out and understand before I made a decision about the lift on my truck. I personally feel that this info paid off sicne I have had none of the nightmares and endless headaches that people carry on about when discussing lifting the TTB axle.

 

thank you so much greystreak92! your info has been a huge help! i would have never of known about the springs being compressed for a week, but that makes perfect sense! so the 6" lift doesn't come with all the alignment stuff? i would really like to go with a 6" lift, but not at the cost of tires being woren down! lol. thank you again!

jason

 

Yes, it does. I just didn't want to go that tall. The drop brackets and cam bolts that allow for the alignment adjustment come with either the 4" or the 6" kit.

 

Trucky18 installed the Tuff country lift with the extended arms. He has a right up somewhere. Also, pm him and ask him about what he thinks.

 

I have had good luck so far with the superlift 4", but I am still thinking of going SAS for strength.

 

Took the words out of my mouth, GREY!. I think you can get a lot of travel with the TTB and much better handling offroad. I am having my TTB cut and turned with a 4" wider beams. I agree with grey not to use blocks as lift but to get the lift on the coils and customized trussed TTB. Along with my trussed TTB, 12" 2.5 Fox coilovers will be used. Longer radius arms with 1 1/4 Hiem joints. The superrunners steering system are expensive but a very good product (on the list to get) I do a lot of fast desert runs and intend to use my bronco as a chase vehicle.