nick
thats a diesel man dig. i truely don't care what powers anyones ride. what does is we all love our fords

 

it's done nisiar met me with his s/d v10 machine and we ran them both.2x4 of niasiar posted the best at 262 or 265 and my 4x4 posted 248.5 hp and 293.2 ft lbs of torque . hp was all in at 4250 torque at 4150. hope mike gets in here with his reading as right now i have a brain fart and can't remember his readings.
any one who wants to change the exhaust think twice this monsters are loud very loud under load on a dyno. just the exhaust alone is loud at full pedal. mine can use some program work as its way to lean with a flat 14.7 all the way while nisiar's richened up at full pedal.
any one around central new jersey the dyno is owned and run by
crazy horse racing at 100 main street, south amboy nj 08879. 732 553 9050 ask for chris winters the owner . this is a performance ford specialty shop
chris pulled the read outs from some hemis and they where almost alike to the v10's un over lay
i can't get the file to attach so if any one wants it pm me use the at and dot so i get it i'll send them out.

 

Charlie, so the 4X4 loses around 14 or so HP through the transfer case, not too shabby.
Was that exhaust noise a nice loud ? Did the shop have any specs on 2 valve V10s and what were his thoughts on break in miles for the V10. It will be interesting for you to go back with another 20000 miles on your beast and the most important question, did you have fun? Hey I agree with Nick, I think your sig. should finish off with something like
I drive a V10 but I still like Fords with inferior motors. Take care, Wrench.

PS Why am I not surprized that Fred's estimate was the closest! Right on Fred

 

the exhaust under heavy load at full throttle is very loud and awsomely strong when standing behind it. no specs on the 2 valve these 2 where his first v10's and he has some ford tuning ideas for them. we finished at about 1230 hours east coast time and at 1700 my ears still ring from it and we where out side when he ran them.
the shop felt the transfer case and some slipage in the trans it self was the reason mine was down as he had problems getting the 17's to bite real tight. nisiars 18's bit right in tight. nisiar by the way is one heck of a wonder full man to meet and talk to . he's been racing for some time.

i have tried several times to load the sheet and it will not go file to big

 

I dont know too much about dynos, or dyno tuning, however I do understand the average 25% loss through the drivetrain to the rear wheels. Is it normal to have such a loss of torque however? Captchas, you posted that you got 293lb ft of tq, this is on a V10 that puts out 455 or so lb ft of tq at the flywheel. Is it normal to have that much of a loss of tq through the drivetrain?

 

Actually the dyno is constantly measuring torque and calculating HP.

Horse Power is always a calculated amount of work done over time and can be directly converted into WATTs, Calories, or Joules all ways of describing an amount of work or energy.

Torque, the rotating/twisting force, can be directly measured. The 22% to 28% parisitic drag losses all come from the front drive accessories, internal engine drag of things like cams and counterballences, toruqe converter slippage, internal drag of trany, drag of idling transfer case internals, gear mesh drag of pinion and ring, and finally the turning of the power 90 degrees to rotate the axle costs some because we have to spin the rotating mass of the tire, brake and wheel assy.

Since Charlie has relativly low milage and I know the transfer case and rear gear are not fully loosened up I think you can calculate 28-32% drag and use his dyno numbers to see he has a pretty stout 365 HP motor.

 

hope this works nisiars truck hit 265.5 hp

 

if this one works it's nisiars dyno run. his is a 4x2 same truck otherwise. his hit 265.9 hp.

 

For those of you interested the numbers were; Hp 262.8/265.9/262.1 Torque 316.3/304.3/299.6 PM me, and I'll e-mail you a better image.
Very wet conditions, wheels reved for a minute to dry, but damp conditions persisted=certainly an asterisk attached to these dyno runs.

 

it was not the best of days for running dyno pulls but it gave us a good base line under the worst of conditions. 248.5 to 265.9 are still some good numbers for any one to work with.
if any one remembers the crazy horse mustangs some years ago this is the shop that built them for the dealers here in new jersey. they had a mustang decal on the side that said crazy horse

 

reading the posts about how much horsepower this v10 makes and seeing the v10 graph im very disappointed with the horsepower and torque figures seems to me the titans and hemis are about the same as a v10 this is 10 cylinders and this is all it makes i have said it since i bought my new o5 sd v10 this motor is not as strong as everyone says it is and i dont care if is not broken you wont find a magical 50 horsepower when it does break in these numbers are very low for a motor with supposedly 362 horsepower

 

please read freds post above. he states what the shop owner said. two very tight motors and drag from not being broken in fully = 30% loss. mine is also draging a transfercase and tires that had a hard time bitting the rollers. if you had been standing to the rear of them like we were the sound was deafing and you would have known they did have something going.
mine also was not going into full throttle enrichment another down fall.

 

Rubicon- are you taking into account drivetrain losses? Conditions? Dyno variances?
At any rate, Chris was nice enough to overlay dyno charts from previous runs stored in his computer, and we had direct comparisons to dodge and chevy trucks. The hemi was closest to the v10, but fell short in HP (10) and torque (20). How much is the hemi option?

 

RUBICON

You seem very sour grapes on V10 power and fuel efficiency.

I guess you think that a 415 cubic inch motor that is run very close to perfect 14.7 air fuel ratio ( lean), has at least 38 emissions check points and hauls a 8000 pound truck from a standing start to 60 mpg in very swift fashion as a dog?

Do a little math sir and remember that Ford may well over state the HP figures a tad.... Do you seem to remember as every one else, that the motor started at 275HP then 310 then 355 before being revised up to 362HP after the production run of 05 started.

232.5 is 25% reduction to the rated 310 HP 2001 I hads and on the dyno she showed 229HP Stone BONE STOCK!

271.5 is the 25% reduction off a 362HP rated 2005 motor and these guys posted right in there even on a humid damp rainy day not the best for top HP on a dyno don't cha know)

You are aware we are comparing Ford FLYWHEEL ADVERTISED rating to real world measured REAR WHEEL HP.

 

captain, nisiar,

Were the other trucks (HEMI etc.) dynoed on the same day?
How many miles did they have on them?