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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Thanks, I had a feeling that was what it was, just wan't sure
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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and DUI =driving under the influence and also OWI= Operating While impaired ,which covers driving while under the influence of drugs.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Ditto on what 1081 said...


1081 is that an old 10 code??? We don't use them anymore. We have 15 codes for use, but has been free talk for years. 1.5 years from retirement with Colorado Springs PD.

 

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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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the judge wont care if the cop was speeding to pull over someone who was speeding. he might act like it matters, but it doesn't.

plus the judge will take the word of a cop over the word of someone who is angry because they got a speeding ticket.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyMtnRanger
Ditto on what 1081 said...


1081 is that an old 10 code??? We don't use them anymore. We have 15 codes for use, but has been free talk for years. 1.5 years from retirement with Colorado Springs PD.

Yes it is, very perceptive. If you look it up now it says something about getting a motel room. 19 years, KCMO
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Also in NY, cop cars are not registered, they have no DMV-issued plates. Therefore, they aren't "motor vehicles." This is how they can drive any speed they want, talk on a cell phone, not wear a safety belt, etc... Only those driving registered motor vehicles in this state are required to abide by these laws. "Do as I say, not as I do..."
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 1081
Yes it is, very perceptive. If you look it up now it says something about getting a motel room. 19 years, KCMO
I want to say years ago it use to mean "Out at headquarters" in this neck of the woods. Funny how some things stay in the old gray matter.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Uh, 10-81 is a bathroom trip for #2, isn't it?

10-80 is #1 ? I can't remember anymore... or is that CB vs. Police?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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Depending on the state, cops can speed without having their emergency equipment activated. I stay pretty current on the rules since I operate and work on emergency vehicles.

In Texas, the transportation codes defines what emergency vehicles can do. Buried in the code, it states that police officers can disregard speed limits, etc. when a. enroute to calls where a quiet approach could aid them in apprehending a suspect (like a business burglary, where you'd like to catch the guy inside, but he's likely to run when he hears sirens in the distance) OR as part of a "police patrol". No definition is given for "police patrol", so it's pretty wide open.

Of course, most departments aren't supposed to speed unless they activate their emergency equipment by policy.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 1956MarkII
Also in NY, cop cars are not registered, they have no DMV-issued plates. Therefore, they aren't "motor vehicles." This is how they can drive any speed they want, talk on a cell phone, not wear a safety belt, etc... Only those driving registered motor vehicles in this state are required to abide by these laws. "Do as I say, not as I do..."
Does this mean I can come to NY and play Road Warrior?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Ok, here you guys go. This is an excerpt from indiana law. Asked my friend who is a cop. Section A-2 and B-3 are pretty much what covers all speeding police and allows them not to get a ticket. He also says that nearly all states have about the exact same law. So the guy who wanted to take his ticket to court saying the cop was breaking the law speeding to catch up with him.....you might want to check out the specific law in your state first....if its anything like indiana's, and I'm sure it probably is, you have no chance of winning. Just thought I'd find out the facts, instead of speculating.


IC 9-21-1-8

Emergency vehicles

Sec. 8. (a) This section applies to the person who drives an authorized emergency vehicle when:
(1) responding to an emergency call;
(2) in the pursuit of an actual or suspected violator of the law; or
(3) responding to, but not upon returning from, a fire alarm.
(b) The person who drives an authorized emergency vehicle may do the following:
(1) Park or stand, notwithstanding other provisions of this article.
(2) Proceed past a red or stop signal or stop sign, but only after slowing down as necessary for safe operation.
(3) Exceed the maximum speed limits if the person who drives
the vehicle does not endanger life or property.
(4) Disregard regulations governing direction of movement or turning in specified directions.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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The guy doesn't have a prayer of fighting that ticket - the cop was speeding to catch up to him... to pull him over. If he had passed him doing 100+, then slowed down, then pulled him over, maybe there's a chance, but the ticket will still stand no matter what.

1956MarkII, you're dead-on about NY - it's that "motor vehicle" thing I was reading... unmarked cars, that's a different story because they have plates on them, but even then, I wouldn't even try to do the "he was speeding too!" cry-baby thing...
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Here's your problem- by showing he was speeding, you'd pretty much have to admit that you were too.
Not necessarily. If you are going the speed limit and he is 1/8 mile behind you he will have to go 30 over to catch you in 15 seconds. The one ticket I didn't contest that I should have was similar. It was 7:00 am, dark, and I was in bumper to bumper standstill traffic and the guy pulls up behind me and says he paced me going 75 on a road I was never on. He just pulled up behind the loudest vehicle he could find and wrote me up.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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In my area I have witnessed many, many, many speeding cops. Some, mostly State Troopers speeding excessively (some HAD to be doing 80-85 mph...on a two lane rural state road). No lights, no siren. The city police like to flip on their roof lights when they approach a red traffic light, zip on through the intersection, then turn them back off. What's that sound like to you?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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cops have a badge to make or break any law that may or may not suit them at that piticullar moment in time
 
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