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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 02:39 PM
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"Swiss cheese frames"

I see "swiss cheese frames" mentioned quite a bit in this forum when talking about the early 1980's F150.
I just don't understand what the worry about it is.
I have a 1981 F150 I bought new in June 0f 1981 and it is still sound,I have never hauled a heavy payload or pulled a trailer with it.
Correct me if I am wrong,but my understanding of the "swiss cheese frame" is that slots/holes were cut it it in an effort to lighten the truck and increase fuel mileage and also reduce emissions.

I also own a 1985 chevy c20 3/4 ton pu it has the 8600lb gvwr option.
I have noticed some slots and holes machined in the frame as well but have never heard them refered to as having a "swiss cheese frame"

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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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just the "swiss cheese frame"...haha doesnt sound good
 
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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I have the cheese frame on my '81 and have never really had any problems with it. I've had it loaded to where the rear springs sat completely level and hit some big dips in the road, not to mention the stupid offroading I do. Sure they're weaker than a solid frame but they aren't a problem unless you have a 3/4-1 ton and load it heavily.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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I have the cheese frame on my '81 and have never really had any problems with it. I've had it loaded to where the rear springs sat completely level and hit some big dips in the road, not to mention the stupid offroading I do. Sure they're weaker than a solid frame but they aren't a problem unless you have a 3/4-1 ton and load it heavily.
Ok Thanks for answering!
We have never had any problems with it what so ever (frame).The truck is used mostly on the highway,we use the chebie 3/4 ton for our heavy firewood hauling,in otherwords if I am going to damage a truck I would rather it be the chebie rather than the F150.
I am in the process of gradually restoring the 81 F150 the only problem I have now with it is due to my own stupidity,I wasn't holding onto the driver's side door very tightly on an extremely windy day and the wind took the door out of my hand and ever since,the door has not closed properly,I am trying to figure out what is sprung;the door,hinges or both.
The gap around the door is not even close to being even (lined up).

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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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It's just it was a cheap *** way for FORD to try and save weight when they did a complete redo on the FORD truck line from 79-80.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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DO NOT swiss cheeze your frame!!!!!! i have not done any mods to my frame and its way to weak already. my frame twists like crazy offroad and i already bent it at the radois arm brakets. I have to box in my frame just to keep my bed form denting my cab. so bad idea DO NOT do that
 
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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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Ummm...I don't think he said he was going to. But early 80's frames came that way on F-100's.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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same with the big broncs
 
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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Could someone post a picture of one of these swiss cheese frames? I have never seen one.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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This is a picture of the frame rail on my '80 F-series truck



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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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that coulnt save much more than 20-30 pounds. what the hell?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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mines the same
 
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 1981 f150
I see "swiss cheese frames" mentioned quite a bit in this forum when talking about the early 1980's F150.
I just don't understand what the worry about it is.


Jeff
The worry is, when you have 1600lbs in one and the frame buckles right behind
the cab when you hit a bump on a corner. It will make you butt pucker and your stomach jump into your chest in a way you will never forget.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by phatpony
Ummm...I don't think he said he was going to. But early 80's frames came that way on F-100's.
and 150s and 250s.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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I cant believe that Ford did that to the truck's frame. Are these lightening holes just between the rear wheels and the back end of the cab--or do the holes continue to the front wheels?And behind the rear axle? Are there holes in the cross members also? And this was also done to the F250?--unbelieveable.

Has anyone on here actually had one of these frames fail??

And Ford stopped this in the 1982 model year?
 
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