I have a 87 e-350 with a 6.9 i want to put in a 460 has anybody don this seems like it would fit fine ant help would be great thanks

 

find a donor

 

WHY?
WHY?
WHY?

 

you need a wiring harness or alot time and skill wring things up on your own(big pain in the tail). you need a new gas tank. a complete long block 460 with all the fixins. I would not do it. all though if you know anybody that will give a new crate motor and put it in for under $4000 then I'd do but you can get a 6.9 motor from dieselautoservices.com for under that price so...... I don't think its worth the price.

 

if you do it let me know what all you did to make it work cause im thinking about doing the same thing in a 92 f350 with the 7.3.

 

Don't forget the transmission has to change as well.
Put a turbo motor in and forget the gas guzzler motor.

 

I will prolly get flamed for this but I dont care.

My buddie's dad has an '84 or 85 that blew a gasket and it hydrolocked, TWICE, so they yanked it, and he stuffed a 460 into it. it is a 4 speed, and all he had to do was get a different bell housing, because those year trucks used the same t-19 tranny, just had different gears for the diesel VS gas .
the wiring harness was not hard AT ALL, he used the same sensors on the motor so the temp, and oil guages still worked, he used the same alternator connections, so that was fine, found a plastic DIESEL tank from same year truck, direcet bolt in. when the motor was out, he pulled all the glow plug stuff out of the harness since it was no longer needed. the only thing that was somewhat difficult was the ingnition, but since the trucks have a solinoid that cuts out to stop the fuel and shut the motor off, he just used that as the feed for the distibutor, put in an aftermarket tach and it was rippin.

It realy wasn't as hard as everyone has made it out to be. if you want some asstance I will be MORE than happy to help you. PM me and I can give you my cell number and try to get a list of everything that was needed, . I am always one who likes a good fun motor swap. I had a BB in an 83 trans am once, that fit real well.

nn final note, he rebuilt the entire motor with his tax return money, and belive me a 20 year old doesn't get that much back, just have to know where to go, and get a good deal on a motor. gassers are a fifth the price of a diesel when it comes to a rebuild.

my only question is what is wrong with the Diesel, granted I drive two, but just curious.


Diesel Rod

 

yep the hardest part my buddy had (he bought one hole in block) was getting juice for the dist... I found a hot wire and it's still running today but first gear in the truck(4.11's) it like taking of in second...
p.s. ford duraspark is simple get the wirning of a 79 truck all the way to the brain box cut the wire infont if the brain box hook up on wire needs to be a key on hot the other is the momentary hot and varoom your gone!

 

You truck guys forgot the person that asked in the original post has a van. I have never seen a van with a T 19 in it, so he needs a new transmission.

An IDI to gas swap is not that hard as far as the wiring goes. Neither is a gas to IDI swap. But you do need a lot of extra parts other than just the engine to do either one.

 

Yea I would thik that he prolly doesnt have a T-19 I have seen a 3 speed van but it was a '78 nd had a 300-6.

But!!!!!!! If you are still interested I just picked up an '84 one ton chassy, both front and rear axles, T-case, and a big block C-6 tranny. so I now have a tranny if it can be converted to a two wheel tranny its all yours. I don't have ANY gas fords to use it in.


Diesel Rod

 

I believe the tranny is a 3 speed only shifts 3 times in drive where is the tranny
marked to tell me what it is thanks for are the responces.the reason i asked
the question i pulled motor out not really that hard replaced head gaskets re did
oil cooler had heads re done put back in only to find crack in the block also the
motor is way to loud for me thanks again

 

TK -

To identify your tranny, count the transmission oil pan bolts:

20 bolts - E4OD
17 bolts - C6

Since you feel three separate shifts (ie: 1-2, 2-3, 3-OD), it sounds like you're describing the electronic overdrive trans. The bolt holes will tell for sure.

 

It does not really make any difference what it is if he swaps to a gas motor. It will not work behind a gas motor. The diesel bell housing bolt pattern is different from all gas motor bolt patterns.

I guess that if it has an overdrive in it now, you should also try to install an overdrive behind the gas motor so drivability remains the same though.

 

I should have read the first post again.
'87 definetly an E4OD.
I was trying to think of the way the pan looks, but the bolts will work too. could it possible be an AOD??? will an AOD fit behind a 460???

I agree. If it is an OD unit, keep it an over drive unit, the lowered milage from no OD will suck. now the problem is that an '87 gasser will be computer controlled, that WILL be a PITA to try and swap. and finding a non computer controlled gas E4OD will prolly not happen, I can't think of one, ford gassers arnt my strong suit, but I think that the plan now has turned into finding a C-6, or finding another van. I am all for motor swaps, but swaping computer stuff from vehicle to vehicle wont be fun.

Diesel Rod

 

Thanks Guys I Will Count Bolts But It Only Shifts From 1 To 2 2to 3 Thats It However There Is Wires That Run To The Trannny I Will Get Back To You On The Bolt Count I Do Have A 79 460 With 72k Miles Thats The One I Was Planning On Thanks For All The Help