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New 3.0
As mentioned in an earlier post, I blew up the motor in my 92 XLT 3.0 just after christmas.
I bought a complete 93 with the same motor and a lot less kms. with the intension of swapping the motor into my 92, but on the weekend I found bad news... very bad news.
Seems the previous owner was too cheap to pay for antifreeze and opted to fill her with water instead.
I live in Canada, need I say more??
Any how, since the transplant takes so long to do, there is no way in h*** that I was going to take a chance on that motor, and so began my search for a more suitable doner.
The gods have blessed me!
Today I bought a complete motor off of a lady who (get this) had purchased a spare motor just in case she needed it.
The best part? Its new, yes new, not rebuilt, zero miles, never installed!
$500.00 canadian! Sorry to go on and on, just really excited. I will post again after the job is done with an update.
I bought a complete 93 with the same motor and a lot less kms. with the intension of swapping the motor into my 92, but on the weekend I found bad news... very bad news.
Seems the previous owner was too cheap to pay for antifreeze and opted to fill her with water instead.
I live in Canada, need I say more??
Any how, since the transplant takes so long to do, there is no way in h*** that I was going to take a chance on that motor, and so began my search for a more suitable doner.
The gods have blessed me!
Today I bought a complete motor off of a lady who (get this) had purchased a spare motor just in case she needed it.
The best part? Its new, yes new, not rebuilt, zero miles, never installed!
$500.00 canadian! Sorry to go on and on, just really excited. I will post again after the job is done with an update.
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Make sure you break that puppy in properly. No synthetic for the first 15,000 miles. Trust me, those parts need to settle and wear properly. Once they have, go with whatever oil you want.
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I get breakin oil from my Yamaha Dealer, All the factory replacement engines come with it in bottles for water craft. They just toss the stuff out. The owner saves it for me and I come by and get it.
Got to love those people that flip there water craft and hit the starter with all that water in the cylinders. Instant bent rod baby.
P.S. Water does not compress!!!
Got to love those people that flip there water craft and hit the starter with all that water in the cylinders. Instant bent rod baby.
P.S. Water does not compress!!!
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Very true 
and for that act of stupidity and probably the limited understanding they have of an engine they go back to the dealer that sold them the watercraft and they have a heart attack when they see the bill 
.I remember before I ever touched a car engine or did anything myself my lawnmower wouldn't turn over so I send it to Sears to be repaired waited 2 weeks and it comes back the Sears repair center wouldn't touch it (0 Compression).
I bought a book for Techumseh engines and overhauled it afterwards it ran like new. It turned out to have a broken connecting rod (becuase of my lack of checking the oil weakening the cap on the rod and hitting the blade into a water main
) From taking that one engine apart it broadened my understanding of engines and when I saw the bill for my Aeros repairs I got annoyed at the prices for the relatively simple tasks they performed and next thing I know I'm replacing my water pump, fan clutch, tie-rod ends, heater core, others things I can't remember, and the worst of them all spark plugs no mechanics have made any money off me ever since 
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and for that act of stupidity and probably the limited understanding they have of an engine they go back to the dealer that sold them the watercraft and they have a heart attack when they see the bill .I remember before I ever touched a car engine or did anything myself my lawnmower wouldn't turn over so I send it to Sears to be repaired waited 2 weeks and it comes back the Sears repair center wouldn't touch it (0 Compression).I bought a book for Techumseh engines and overhauled it afterwards it ran like new. It turned out to have a broken connecting rod (becuase of my lack of checking the oil weakening the cap on the rod and hitting the blade into a water main
) From taking that one engine apart it broadened my understanding of engines and when I saw the bill for my Aeros repairs I got annoyed at the prices for the relatively simple tasks they performed and next thing I know I'm replacing my water pump, fan clutch, tie-rod ends, heater core, others things I can't remember, and the worst of them all spark plugs no mechanics have made any money off me ever since .
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Originally Posted by khantyranitar
Make sure you break that puppy in properly. No synthetic for the first 15,000 miles. Trust me, those parts need to settle and wear properly. Once they have, go with whatever oil you want.
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Oil Pump Prime
Thanks to everyone for all the advice.
I have a question pertaining to the oil pump prime; Can you rotate the pump through the distributor hole? If so, what type of drive does it have? i.e. hex?
Also, I noticed when I laid the new motor on it's side, some oil came out that was almost green in colour, is this some sort of storage oil?
I have a question pertaining to the oil pump prime; Can you rotate the pump through the distributor hole? If so, what type of drive does it have? i.e. hex?
Also, I noticed when I laid the new motor on it's side, some oil came out that was almost green in colour, is this some sort of storage oil?
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Originally Posted by Aerocook
Thanks to everyone for all the advice.
I have a question pertaining to the oil pump prime; Can you rotate the pump through the distributor hole? If so, what type of drive does it have? i.e. hex?
Also, I noticed when I laid the new motor on it's side, some oil came out that was almost green in colour, is this some sort of storage oil?
I have a question pertaining to the oil pump prime; Can you rotate the pump through the distributor hole? If so, what type of drive does it have? i.e. hex?
Also, I noticed when I laid the new motor on it's side, some oil came out that was almost green in colour, is this some sort of storage oil?
As for your oil pump primer, you could an old distributor from a salvage yard and make yourself one. Take the distributor camshaft gear off and turn the shaft with a drill. As soon as you get the oil pump to prime, STOP. You don't want to wash away the assembly lube that is on your bearings.
If a hex-head bit on a drill will work, that is fine also. It just might take a long hex-head bit to reach down to the oil pump.
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Not really Oil in there, It's a rust preventive to stop pitting from water and humity. They spray the inside with a coating of some kind too that sticks to the freeze plugs, Crank and bearings.
Also never lay a motor on its side, Stand it up in the rear housing, Or support the bottom with 4x4's under it. So it's laying like its in the Van.
Also never lay a motor on its side, Stand it up in the rear housing, Or support the bottom with 4x4's under it. So it's laying like its in the Van.
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Oil Pump Prime
Thanks folks.
I will be filling the engine with fresh oil and then priming the pump before I fire it up for the first time. As for the age of the engine??? 10 to 13 years?
This is a Ford replacement engine from a parts distribution centre, so I'm sure it was adequately protected for a long period of storage prior to use.
I will be pulling the oil pan off just to take a peek inside before install.
I will be filling the engine with fresh oil and then priming the pump before I fire it up for the first time. As for the age of the engine??? 10 to 13 years?
This is a Ford replacement engine from a parts distribution centre, so I'm sure it was adequately protected for a long period of storage prior to use.
I will be pulling the oil pan off just to take a peek inside before install.
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Originally Posted by Fordboy49
What is breakin oil? How heavy is its weight?
TIA,
Fordboy49
TIA,
Fordboy49
BTW, back in the mid-50s Chevrolet had a problem with their new V-8 engine not having the rings seat. Did you know the secret official fix was to pour Bon-Ami down the carburetor??!!!!!
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Motorcycle Engines run Clutch based oils. It's more like transmission fluid and has no detergents that will bond to clutch plates.
They also use a weight scale that is not the same as Motor oil. So a 30w motor oil is equal to 80w Motorcycle oil.
They also use a weight scale that is not the same as Motor oil. So a 30w motor oil is equal to 80w Motorcycle oil.