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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 01:53 AM
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Question Do I need to replace my alternator?

I drive an '88 Bronco, it's a 5.0 and it's fuel injected, anyways starting a couple days ago usually in the mornings during the first start up of the day, it keeps dieing on me, and when I have headlights on, when I go to start it the headlights dim, and when it is about to die and i have the cab lights on they dim when the idle rises up and falls with the rpm gauge. Do I need to replace my alternator, or is it something else? That is the only thing I can think of.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 02:44 AM
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First off welcome to FTE, and secondly, have you posted in Electrical? They might be able to help ya out a little bit too. But from what I can tell, you say it starts up then dies? That usually doesn't have to deal with alternator. And then whenever you go to start it back up, your battery is still a little tired from the first start, and if you have the headlights on, they're deffinately going to dim. The starter pulls most the juice from the battery, and doesn't like to give it to your headlights. So that's the explanation on that, from what I can tell, it's not the alternator. Maybe your battery needs to be replaced since it looks like when the cab lights go up and down with the idle, the lights are pulling their power directly from the alternator. Now if you just have your cab lights on and you rev your engine, they will get brighter, but within the idle.. I don't think that is supposed to happen.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 05:12 AM
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Don't spend money replacing parts with a guess. You can have alternators, starters, and batteries etc. tested at your local Pep Boys, Auto Zone, Advanced Auto stores, or maybe Napa. Also pick up an inexpensive multi meter so you can do some of your own testing. I second on the electrical forum. Franklin and those guys are pretty good.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Could be as simple as a bad regulator. Just have one of those stores mentioned hook it up to have it checked out. good luck
 
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by phatpony
Could be as simple as a bad regulator. Just have one of those stores mentioned hook it up to have it checked out. good luck
You where right on the money, I went to CarQuest today and had my buddy run a test on the alternator and said it should be at 14.2 but tested at 14.8. He said that it is the regulator, and will eventually burn up my battery so I need to replace it. Thanks for the help guys!
 
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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14.2? That's kind of high isn't it?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RomerB2
14.2? That's kind of high isn't it?
I was told by him that 14.2 is what it should be at.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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For a high output alternator. Don't most alternators run something like 12.8 or lower?
 
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RomerB2
For a high output alternator. Don't most alternators run something like 12.8 or lower?
Well the previous owner had already fried and replaced 2 alternators, because the amp and system he was running was so high it was killing the alternators. But i'm just a good ol' country boy who doesnt need the "bumps" or that jungle music that is called rap, so I don't need a high volume alternator, nor do I even know what 12.8, 14.2 or 14.8 means, I figure thats the voltage but I know nothing when it comes to electrical.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 03:34 AM
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It's the voltage that the alternator is putting out. Most stock electrical systems are around 12V or close to that.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 05:15 AM
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Most systems will charge at about 13 to 14.5. Less is not good and more is not good. Less won't keep up with the charge needed and more will fry things. The alternator produces the current and the regulator "regulates" how much should go out to the system, depending on what is being used. I believe it also changes the kind of current produced into something useable. Though the systems are 12 volts, when you check a fully charged battery it will probably read around 12.25 to 12.75.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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The current is also changed as you have said, it comes from the engine as AC and has to be converted over to DC so the battery can hold the juice.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Well I decided just to go ahead and replace the alternator so that's what I did today, and so far it is running a lot better and isn't dieing when i start it.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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The regulator, which can be separate or internal, tells the alternator how much to put out, voltage wise. The alternator delivers current, within its rating, necessary to keep up the voltage. The AC to DC conversion takes place within the alternator using diodes, usually as diode assemblies. The alternator may not have enough output if it turning too slowly, like at idle. Thus the rev up test to see if voltage raises when the engine fast idles.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Trike1946...I took your advice and ran my little '56 over to Checkers for an electirical system test. The battery light started glowing the other day.They isolated the problem to my generator so it saved me a bunch of hassle. The extra time and money they saved me can now be squandered on something else important...like new battery cables or...?

Thanks, Doug
 
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