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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Battery problem

This is really making me mad. What could cause a brand new battery to discharge over night? No lights are left on and the Van does not have power windows or anything like that. This just recently started happening and I can not figure it out. I know it is something simple and probably more then one person has had this happen. If any of you could help I would appreciate it.

By the way my family or I have owned Fords all our lives. Mostly Trucks, Broncos, Mustangs, and thunderbirds. Currently my problem is with my 1989 e-250

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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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Could it have had just a surface charge from the folks you bought it from? Or defective cell from the beginning?

I'd test the cells, put it on a charger till you're sure it's got the best charge it can, then wait another night. If the battery checks out then you can keep it charged, hook up a meter and try pulling fuses one by one to see if the draw continues. That way you might isolate the system in question.

And that's about as far as my knowledge base extends...
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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Disconnect one of the battery cables before letting it sit over night. If it still has a charge the next day something in the vehicle is draining it if not then the battery could be bad.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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I am going to try all the above.

Best case scenario the new battery is bad and I will get another free.

Worst case scenario I can't find the draw.

I was quick to judge the problem and bought a new battery thinking this must have been the problem. So I really don't think it is the new battery. I cleaned the posts and wires well and added that red grease stuff after to ensure it will not corrode fast. I hate electrical, mostly because I dont have the tools. Where is the best place to get a multimeter?

Thanks again for the help,
Justin
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Do you have a burned out headlight? My '94 kept draining down in a couple of days. Everything checked out OK.

I happened to go out one night, and noticed a headlight was burned out. I replaced the bulb, and have not had a problem since. I guess a relay or something in that circuit caused the problem.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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A good hardware store or NAPA store should have decent multimeters. Don't get the cheapest one, get a mid-range. Be sure it has a fuse that'll pop if you screw something up (like I do).

The suggestion of disconnecting a battery cable is a good one...start with one, and if it drains, do it again with the other. I'd start with the negative...if there's still a drain that might indicate a hot wire has gone to ground.

BTW, to stay with the basics...on my old jeep, I went through the new battery, new starter thing and it turned out to be the positive cable has gone green and bad INSIDE the plastic sheathing. The cable ends looked fine and it was only on a suggestion from a buddy that I tried it. Just a thought.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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If it is drawing the current when it is not driven I would check the glovebox light, hood light, and the trunk light. If it is drawing during the day I would get your altinater checked
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Thank you all that have chimed in, I really appreciate it.

Just an update. I bought a multimeter for around $51 BUCKS AT THE NAPA. it does have mA settings. I was told to disconnect the negative battery cable and set the multimeter to DC A and test at the highest setting first and go down till I get a reading. Then start pulling fused until the reading drops. Does this sound right? I already blew a fuse, but was smart enough to go to the Radio shack and get some



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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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well I pulled the negative off and tested with a multimeter between the cable and the post. Something is drawing 12.57 volts. Should I check amps instead since everything pretty much runs on what the battery puts out volt wise? What setting should I put the multimeter on?
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Something is pulling 2.45 on the 10A SETTING


Well Hell, I pulled all the fuses and it stayed constant. I did not have any doors open. I was wondering if I was getting the correct settings so I opened a door to see what is up, and it went to 3.4 so I know it is working. Man I am just going crazy. I have no clue what it could be now.
 

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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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I would think it is the alt. remove the wires all of them off it & then check it then.


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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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draw

OK 2.45 Amps is way to high. It should be about 200 mA or 0.2Amps
To find your draw Connect your meter on 10A setting between the negitive battery post and cable. leave it connected. now pull fuses one at a time until the draw disapears. now you have a idea where to look depending on what fuse it is. Also if none of the fuse are causing a draw disconect the alterater wiring and cable. I have seen alternators cause a draw hope this helps.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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I am going to pull the wires off the alt. like yomow and 4.6Ranger suggest. I really appreciate this guys. This is my work van for the company.

Thanks again,
Gus
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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Just about every circuit will draw 12.57 volts because your battery at rest should be 12.6 volts and just about everything requires 12v.

Start checking circuits that are always on with the key off. You might have a sticking brake pedal, bad horn relay, bad lumbar support switch, bad cooling fan relay, etc.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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could be a draw from the starting circuit. while disconnecting things. try taking the wire off the starter. I have seen bad starter doing this.
 
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