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just a note to BigF350 i said in the original post ..."the vehicle that has the highest mileage to begin with would logically not drop any worse than that of any other motor with the SAME power rating."
you gave the example i knew would contradict the small engine = better mileage. these are apples to apples for the most part on power.
you gave the example i knew would contradict the small engine = better mileage. these are apples to apples for the most part on power.
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Ahh yes, What I meant was the F-150 came in at several thousand less than the Tundra. Maybe Im worrying about this too much, its just that I only get one chance to get it right and if I try and be cheap I fear I might regret my decision on my first run to the lake with the boat. I looked at the Ranger and its capacity is 3200#, not enough. Have you ever towed close to the limits of your truck, if so how did it handle the weight?
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I always use a weight distribution hitch, and it handles it fine.
Our Rangers can Tow 4000lb.
They will be upping it to 5500lb's here shortly though
And with 6000lb's on it, I would imagine that fuel consumption would be similar btwn a F150 and a Tundra
Our Rangers can Tow 4000lb.
They will be upping it to 5500lb's here shortly though
And with 6000lb's on it, I would imagine that fuel consumption would be similar btwn a F150 and a Tundra
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The Ranger with the 4.0 has a towing capacity of 5900lbs. Now I have towed over that by about 1000lbs and it did ok but it not something I would do with any type of regularity. I also have a weight distribution hitch. I get between 16-18mpg combination city/highway but only about 10-11 towing that type of weight.
The only advie I would give is determine first how long you plan to keep the truck. If you are planning on a long term relationship with it get the most towing capacity that is reasonable for your current needs and for the future. Funny thing about towing, your needs always seem to grow over time.
The only advie I would give is determine first how long you plan to keep the truck. If you are planning on a long term relationship with it get the most towing capacity that is reasonable for your current needs and for the future. Funny thing about towing, your needs always seem to grow over time.
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Keep in mind that tow capacity is based on some assumed loading of the vehicle. You need to know what the GCVW is. For instance if the GCVW is 9,500 lbs that is the maxed out weight it can handle. So for instance if the vehicle has 9,500 lb GCVW and it weighs 4,000 lbs that leaves 5,500lbs total additonal weight. If it is rated max tow capacity is 5,0000lbs the assumption was 500lbs of load. If you increase this load, you have to subtract the tow weight. The formula is GCVW of 9500lbs = Curb weight + load + tow weight. As you can see you start loading the truck up with gear and coolers and vacation stuff the tow weight will decrease. Keep this in mind when looking at a vehicle to use for towing.
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I sure hope I have the boat longer than the truck! I dont think I can afford to be trading in my boat that often. I didnt know that the Ranger's capacity was that high, same case though the toyota still has more torque, 282 compared to the Rangers 238.
Kevin, let me get this straight, I have to subtract myself and my passengers from the total? So if my boat weighs 5000#, myself and three passengers, 800#, truck 4100#, gear, 100# this equals 10,000# This would have be lower than the GCVW? This is close because the Tacomas GCVW is 11,100#
Kevin, let me get this straight, I have to subtract myself and my passengers from the total? So if my boat weighs 5000#, myself and three passengers, 800#, truck 4100#, gear, 100# this equals 10,000# This would have be lower than the GCVW? This is close because the Tacomas GCVW is 11,100#
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If the Tacoma has A 11,100 lb GCVW, the overall toal cannot exceed. So my point is your tow capacity will go down if you exceed the load assumption. The GCVW cannot exceed 11,100lbs this includes the curb weight, the load and the tow. So if the GCVW is 11,100 lbs the truck weighs 4100lbs that allows 7,000lbs left between your passangers, the extra stuff and the boat. So if you, your passangers and coolers weigh 1,000lbs the max you can tow is 6,000lbs even though the truck is rated at max tow of 6500lbs.
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Originally Posted by mlazuka
Thanks Mark, I'll be towing once a week about 6 months out of the year, or about 25 times. Fuel economy is attractive with the Tacoma especially with gas prices right now. The area where I live has lots of hills so I can only guess how the Tacoma would perform around here. I wish there was some way to see how it handles that much weight. I also just went to Toyotas website and it has the double cab listed at 221.3 inches long! the Suburban is even shorter at 219.3 inches. The Tacomas Ive seen sure didnt look this long, maybe its a typo or I'm missing something, If its true it wouldnt fit in my garage.
Endurance, I havent heard anything about the beds cracking, are they falling apart or is it just cosmetic cracks?
Endurance, I havent heard anything about the beds cracking, are they falling apart or is it just cosmetic cracks?
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Its my first post! I had a major reliablity issue with a 92 F150 I bought used in 93. It only had 18k on it at the time and after blown front shocks, warped rotors, TWO A/C compressors, three recalls, replaced ECM, a power window motor, 45,000 miles and 3 years later I swore to never own another Ford. Then 6 months ago my die hard Ford man of a Dad bought a 2003 F350 Super Duty 4x4 duelly crew cab with all the options and a 6.0 powerstroke to replace is 95 f350 powerstroke. I drove the super duty a few times and fell in love. After doing a ton of research and searching I bought a 2001 Excursion 4x4 with the 7.3 a couple months ago. I love it! Now here I am, back among the Blue Oval crowd. When I go over to my parents house I can now park in the driveway. (as long as I'm driving the Ford, he still makes me park my 96 Ram in the street)
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I just recently sold my 1997 F-150, supercab, 4 wheel drive. Bought a 2001 F-250 diesel, crewcab w/4wd. My F-150 had 125,000 miles on it when I sold it. The only problem I had with it besides replacing normal-tires, brakes, etc., was fixing a 'clunking' noise in my driveline. There was a bulletin put out on it and Ford fixed it at no charge. I was very happy with the truck, it had the 4.6l engine. I had the first tune up done at 96,000 miles. Asked the mechanic to show me the spark plugs after he removed them. They almost looked new still! My father owns the truck now and still going strong. He had to replace the AC unit last year but hey, it's 7 years old!
My thoughts on the Toyota Tundra. I would suspect it's just as reliable as the F-150. My father-in-law, and two friends have them. One friend hasn't been real happy but the other two have. I personally wouldn't buy one because even with the larger size...they are still a japanese truck...meaning they are still small inside. Sitting in the drivers seat, I still feel like I'm in a compact car as opposed to a big truck.
Just my experience and 2 cents worth...nothing against Toyotas.
My thoughts on the Toyota Tundra. I would suspect it's just as reliable as the F-150. My father-in-law, and two friends have them. One friend hasn't been real happy but the other two have. I personally wouldn't buy one because even with the larger size...they are still a japanese truck...meaning they are still small inside. Sitting in the drivers seat, I still feel like I'm in a compact car as opposed to a big truck.
Just my experience and 2 cents worth...nothing against Toyotas.
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