We've all heard of this before, I've gone through it many times myself.
Most often times I'm able to resist it on my own. Sometimes I cave and buy. And still other times reality of my current financing obligations sets in and beats it off for me. I can't actually say I've ever been dissatisfied with any of my purchases, but I know of a few people who have become very dissatisfied at times after making an impulse buy.

This said, I know the 6.0 diesel has had an abnormal and excessive amount of problems associated with it - even for a new motor. I feel for those who have actually waited a long time to purchase a new vehicle, only to end up with a bad experience like dealing with those issues - I'm sure it's even worse for some of those who hav'ent had a new vehicle of any kind in 10 years or more.

This said, it's no secret that the 6.0 has had many issues. I wonder how many complaints may be coming from individuals who made an impulse buy and then later regretted the purchase (and probably would have with any vehicle)?

I've owned a Cummins Dodge myself, and without getting to far off the topic here - I was very satisfied with it. I have test driven the new 6.0 on many occasions, and in fact I have test driven many new trucks period. None of them screams BUY ME like the 6.0 with Torqueshift transmission does IMO.

Is my perception correct in this? Is it possible that the 6.0 has fallen victim of it's own reputation (in part) because many an impulse buyer has become aware of past issues it's had, and may be using them to get out from under the truck now?


No flames please - just a thought...and I really do feel for those of you with ongoing issues, who otherwise would truely love your trucks.

(On Edit; I mentioned my Cummins only because, I have test driven the newest Dodge Cummins trucks, and though I feel the Cuumins is a very trustworthy motor, and i like Dodge trucks - I really meant it when I said NONE of the other trucks screamed "BUY ME NOW" like the 6.0/TS - and
I'm a manual transmission guy)

 

Well meg...I won't even address the focus of your post here as I am a little distracted by your second sentence. Which I am sure you would rephrase if given the opportunity. If you know what I mean.

 

I've heard of the new 6spd behind the Cummins. I'm told it's very nice. Have you driven a PSD with the ZF6. I really like mine. I'm gun shy when it comes to the Torque shift. If you've got a good one, they're great, but with issues out there, I'm staying away from them. -an automatic behind a diesel in any brand.

I think you might have a good concept about impulse buyers, but there are those for every make and model. And the percentage of unhappy impulse buyers is low. Many impulse buyers make a best decision for them anyway and still end up happy.

 

No impulse buyer here...owned an 01 no problem, just no HP ...then an 03 had some issues, Ford made it right and .....well the only truck/engine I will own is a Ford/6.0......

 

05 F250 Lariat CC PSD Torqueshift FX4 LB

I bought my first diesel or should I say ordered it back in July last year, took delivery in September last year. I test drove the 03 and waited to see if any problems came up with the new engine. Problems did arise so I waited and test drove an 04 early last year. Finally gave in and ordered an 05, figured it was safe to dive in.
Where I live here in California I see a very large number of 6 L power stroke engines running around and I don't believe all these 6 L owners are having problems. I currently have 5900 miles on mine and it has performed flawlessly. At about 4700 miles the check engine light came on. The dealer told me they had never seen this particular error code, it turned out to be a faulty low fuel sensor located inside the fuel tank. The dealer did not carry the part and I had to wait until the next day to get the truck back.

My brother has an 04 and has over 40,000 miles on it, (trips across country) and he has not experienced any problems with his.

It was all I could do to hold off on buying this truck back in 03, it makes you want one real bad after you test drive it. Maybe it was the best thing to do after all.

Another point of interest after doing some research, unfortunately I cannot remember where I found it, problems associated with first year production of 6.0 Liter PSD were fewer than the last years production of the 7.3 Liter PSD. I think these problems get blown out of proportion to what they really are.

This is a fantastic truck!!

 

Another point of interest after doing some research, unfortunately I cannot remember where I found it, problems associated with first year production of 6.0 Liter PSD were fewer than the last years production of the 7.3 Liter PSD. I think these problems get blown out of proportion to what they really are.

Man...I would REALLY like to get my hands of that info.

Continued good luck with your truck.

 

I see two separate issues, Quality and Quality Control. Sure the 6.0 has some quality control problems. Every diesel does, some better, some worse. But the problems aren’t so bad that I don’t appreciate the overall quality of the product. Once you get a few bugs out, it’s a better vehicle that the other available choices, for me. I‘ll take the diesel v8 over a 6 any day. Like a Harley guy once told me when asked ‘Isn’t that old Harley very unreliable?’ He said ‘Its very reliable, after you rebuild it once’. Get it right, you'll be happy, its worth the effort.

 

I will tell you, I don't think it is so much an issue (at least with me) that the new truck broke, it is what happens AFTER you buy and it breaks that is the issue. Ford did a great job at designing the truck, did a fantastic job at advertising the truck, did a wonderful job at selling the truck and then completely fell down when it came to standing behind the truck and it's issues.

You can love a truck to death when you buy it but if it breaks and you take it in only to get what I would term "service abuse" then exactly how happy are you going to be? It is like buying a new house only to have the roof leak in the first storm and then being told while your stuff is getting wet,

A: A vast majority of these do not have any problems.

B: After a quick look on a sunny day that the house is working as designed.

C: OK, so there may be an issue but we have no clue how to stop it so it is normal and wait for us to figure it out so we can maybe fix it.

D: No we won't do anything while your stuff is getting wet, just wait....

F: You must now drive all over within a 100 mile radius to find a contractor that does warranty work for this company that may take pity on you and actually come to your house and have a clue what to look for and the capacity to fix it. By the way, while all of this is going on your house is still useless and filling with mold (except on sunny days) so shut up and be happy you still have sunny days!

Again, I don't think people would be so jacked up if they didn't pay more than most house down payments for a truck only to be blown off when something breaks.
In my case had they taken it in the first couple of times and FIXED it, AND not treated me like I was stupid and then, if they could not fix it take it back there would be no issue.
It isn't that the truck broke so much as what happened after.....