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Nobody said they were less capable!! I did say they were not the work horse they used to be but if you followed the post I also said it was because there was a bigger demand. Face the facts the 1/2 ton truck is not the truck of choice for the work loads anymore. Trailers, loads, job demands have all increased. You go to any work site now and you will not find a 1/2 ton used for more then a vehicle to run around in, all the working trucks will be in the 3/4 and above range. The F-150 is still a great truck and has more strength then ever but it still is only a 1/2 ton and that just doesn't cut it in th real working world anymore.
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Originally Posted by fordborn
The work horse has also changed and in most cases people are asking a truck to do more and more thus the 150 has become less capable to carry the demand of the new work force.
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Capable yes, but their design intent is not to be hauling loads like they used to, even though they are able to, there isn't a 1/2 ton F-150 purely designed for hauling a load...
SD's have taken up that market posistion, but there are people out there that don't want/can't afford a 3/4 ton, but still need to use it as a truck, yes the F-150 may be able to do it in numbers terms, but its not like the older F-150's, they were designed to haul a load...
SD's have taken up that market posistion, but there are people out there that don't want/can't afford a 3/4 ton, but still need to use it as a truck, yes the F-150 may be able to do it in numbers terms, but its not like the older F-150's, they were designed to haul a load...
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From: Kalispell, Mt.
And my point being is that they should make bell housings that will allow you to exchange a 4.6 for a 5.4 to your manual and a simple electical package to plug and play. These modular engines appear to be a tad more complicated to work on as compared to older bolcks that a lot of us grew up with. We could get aftermarket parts, adaptors, etc, whatever it took to do whatever we wanted to do to our half tons. Some of us want a half ton with go power. In a manual, you already have the gearing you need to match any torque range with your needs.
I don't even see aftermarked companies yet making engine adaptor kits for the 4.6-5.4 swap... and someone should get on the ball since Ford isn't willing to offer anything from the factory unless you pay through the nose several times over for a Lightning ...umm, if they ever get back into that again.
I don't even see aftermarked companies yet making engine adaptor kits for the 4.6-5.4 swap... and someone should get on the ball since Ford isn't willing to offer anything from the factory unless you pay through the nose several times over for a Lightning ...umm, if they ever get back into that again.
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From: Marion, VA
Originally Posted by BigF350
Capable yes, but their design intent is not to be hauling loads like they used to, even though they are able to, there isn't a 1/2 ton F-150 purely designed for hauling a load...
SD's have taken up that market posistion, but there are people out there that don't want/can't afford a 3/4 ton, but still need to use it as a truck, yes the F-150 may be able to do it in numbers terms, but its not like the older F-150's, they were designed to haul a load...
SD's have taken up that market posistion, but there are people out there that don't want/can't afford a 3/4 ton, but still need to use it as a truck, yes the F-150 may be able to do it in numbers terms, but its not like the older F-150's, they were designed to haul a load...
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I think because they are more expensive and have shinier paint and nicer interiors that people are just more hessitant to use a truck like a truck. With the exception of the absence of a manual tranny with a V-8, how is the F-150 less designed to haul a load. There is still a Work Truck package available that gets you vinyl seats and knocks $1005 off of the price tag.
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I agree they are still designed to haul a load and do so very well. It's just a fact though the loads have become bigger and heavier thus the majority of work trucks are 3/4 and up while the 1/2 have become the choice of the sporting group. There is no doubt that these trucks are far better and will most likely do more then their predecessors but the fact remains that as the demand put upon the pickup increased it soon out paced the 1/2 tons abilities.
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From: Orange
Originally Posted by duramaximizer
without quoting the entire post i don't think the same truck can get motor trend's truck of the year 2 years in a row am i correct on this i know they say they all are in contention but can they be it consecutively?
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".....and talk (though just that) of a 6 spd manual transmissio with the 5.7 Hemi being available"
This seems to be more than talk now. Take a look at this.
http://www.arifleet.com/production.html
Look under Dodge Ram Pickup. Looks like the 6 spd will be available in the Dakota as well.
".....and talk (though just that) of a 6 spd manual transmissio with the 5.7 Hemi being available"
This seems to be more than talk now. Take a look at this.
http://www.arifleet.com/production.html
Look under Dodge Ram Pickup. Looks like the 6 spd will be available in the Dakota as well.
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