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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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I replaced the Continentals with Michelins on my (04 SCREW 5.4, 3.73) and still have the vibration - maybe worse. I get a new driveshaft on Monday. My vibration is not torque sensitive. Others on this site who's vibration was torque sensitive have had good results with replacing the ring and pinion gears or the entire rear-end. PanamaRobb - you might actually get yours fixed!

My brother has a regular cab 05 with the V6, 3.55 rear end, and Michelin LTX A/S tires and his truck is sports car smooth! I really so not think it is a design flaw, but more likely a faulty part i.e. (rear end housing, ring and pinion gears, unbalanced drive shaft etc.) My vibration is not terrible but it isn't normal either! Thank goodness for an excellent service department. They seem to want to find a fix as much a I do, and otherwise, this is the best pickup I have ever owned (Ford, Dodge, Chevy or Nissan).
You brother's experience echoes my own experience so I know I'm right on this issue. I would suggest that you find a dealer somewhere else who has a service manager who is competent. This CAN'T be that difficult to fix but then again maybe there is something I don't understand. Is there anything inside the wheels (such as rocks and debris) that could cause an imbalance problem? Is the driveshaft properly balanced? What about the axles? (I once had an AMC vehicle and the axles were the cause). If I were the dealer I would first of all confirm the problem with the customer. Then I would replace the possible causes of the problems one by one (such as pulling the wheels and tires from another vehicle known to be vibration free). Are the wheels being tightened properly with a torque wrench? And finally, what about the engine? If Nascar race cars can go around a track at 190 mph, surely a truck can be balanced at 70 mph.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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So far, the tires were road force balanced (3 times), 9 new tires (5 replacement Continentals and 4 new Michelins), new brake rotors and I am getting a new driveshaft on Monday. You would think that they could get it fixed easily, but that does not appear to be the case for a lot of folks. I know 7 people with 04 SuperCrews (3-2wd and 4-4wd) and none of them have my same problem. One does have a bad rear-end, however. Knowing what I know, I can not really buy into the argument that it is a design flaw, I just hope I can get mine fixed soon.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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I've had my 04 for almost a year now. No vibration at all. This thing rides like a dream. Lot's of power, pulls a fifth wheel trailer like it not even there! Only problems I've had is a noisy fan belt and the clutch packs in the rear end. Both were fixed under warranty no troubles.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Missouri Mule,
I find it interesting that a new truck would come with a vibration dampener already installed. I wonder if all new F150s are coming with this? Can you tell me exactly where it is located and what it looks like. I have a factory installed receiver hitch, but I don't see anything else under there.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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The logic is simple here guy's... The vibe problems obviously have continued to the 05's... Stands to reason if they knew how to cure it in the 05's they'd be able to cure the 04's with it..

The dealer must use an electronic vibration sensor. There's guy on another web page who's talking about it. Tires vibrate in the 9-15hz range. Driveline 20-35hz and engines in the 50-70hz range. Dealers are suppose to have this tool before they start guessing what the problem is.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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Missouri Mule,
I find it interesting that a new truck would come with a vibration dampener already installed. I wonder if all new F150s are coming with this? Can you tell me exactly where it is located and what it looks like. I have a factory installed receiver hitch, but I don't see anything else under there.
It is on the driver's side and is about 5-6 inches square and attaches to the bottom of the frame about six inches from the back of the frame, if I recall correctly. Bear in mind that this is with the V6 so I don't know if it comes with the V8s. I have an STX with a 6.5 foot styleside bed. I only observed it because I was trying to visualize the difficulty or lack thereof in putting on the hitch myself. I rechecked with the local Ford dealer and what they had in stock would not fit my truck. According to Etrailer, they are coming out with a hitch that will accomodate the vibration damper.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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Thanks for the info. My brother's is also a V6, STX, with a 6.5' bed and 3.55 RE. I didn't check to see if he had a dampener, but he did just have a receiver hitch installed. By the way, I am surprized that the V6 accelerates as well as it does. I have a 5.4 with 3.73 RE and it is not noticibly any quicker, at least under normal driving.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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The dealership tried to tell me that they cut the vibration in half because the frequency of the vibration was cut almost in half using the sensor although The "G" forces remained unchanged on this test. When I explained that I understood that the force portion of the vibration is the "level" at which the vibration was felt they concurred and said well we've done what we can...
 
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Missouri Mule,
Thanks for the info. My brother's is also a V6, STX, with a 6.5' bed and 3.55 RE. I didn't check to see if he had a dampener, but he did just have a receiver hitch installed. By the way, I am surprized that the V6 accelerates as well as it does. I have a 5.4 with 3.73 RE and it is not noticibly any quicker, at least under normal driving.
Indeed the acceleration is more than adequate. I was surprised at how easily it handles the load; effortlessly, in fact. I'm not completely happy with the fuel economy at 19 mpg but I can live with it. What hitch did your brother get installed on his truck, if he had the damper installed? I'm still trying to get that issue hammered out.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Every 2005 4x4 I have checked has the damper installed
 
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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I have a new 2004 4x2 SCAB Lariat (250 miles), built 6/2004, I took delivery of last Saturday. Has 18" BFG's. I have a slight steering nibble at 70 MPH and up. What concerns me most is a slight to moderate vibration up through the floor and seat I feel from 48-56 MPH, which seems to be there under accel, coast, or cruise. I also have either a rear tire noise or gear whine under load at 70MPH. I've got an appointment at the dealer for next Monday (3/6). Wish me luck.

The problem with this truck is that it is so darn quiet and smooth otherwise, you hear and feel every vibration, noise, shake, etc!!!!
 
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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He does not have any paper work, but on the hitch it says "Towing Products , Plymouth, MI, V-5, part no. 51064," However, he does not appear to have a dampener installed.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Well I got my FX4 back from the dealership Saturday. They did the following:
Road Force balance the tires.
New driveshaft.
Dampener.
Ring and Pinion.
Reflash (why would they do this?).

So far I think the vibration is gone, but time will tell.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Well I got my FX4 back from the dealership Saturday. They did the following:
Road Force balance the tires.
New driveshaft.
Dampener.
Ring and Pinion.
Reflash (why would they do this?).

So far I think the vibration is gone, but time will tell.
I hope this works for you. I had a ring and pinion replaced, but the vibe came back after a bit. Cross your fingers and good luck
 
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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I got mine back today and the vibration finally appears to be gone. Besides road force balancing the 4 brand new Michelin tires, I also got a new driveshaft, which they tested and indexed three times. The original vibration measured 24hz and the final was 6hz. After I picked up my truck, I took it for a test drive on all the roads that I knew would show the vibration if still present, and I am happy to say I am currently 100% vibration and nibble free! This is once again a great truck, and this also proves to me two things 1) Most of these problems are fixable 2) For the most part, it is not just a tire issue. Good luck to the rest of you still trying to get yours fixed. By the way, my vibration was not torque sensitive, so replaceing the rear-end was never considered.
 
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