diy biodiesel
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From: Douglas, Georgia
excellent, I'm all about this, being in landscaping/timber work and also owning a farm, this whole biodiesel idea is doable, but my knowledge of diesel engines is lacking (but growing slowly).
seems biodiesel would be perfect for us, the only other person (aside from my family) that lives on my farm happens to own a small hamburger stand... not ideal for grease source, but it's free and 1/2 mile away, plus he generates alot and changes the grease fairly often. Not to mention my wife owns a homemade soap company, so the idea of excess glycerin (which we buy 6-7hundred pounds of a year) would be a great bonus.
well back to google... lot to learn, never enough time.
drew
seems biodiesel would be perfect for us, the only other person (aside from my family) that lives on my farm happens to own a small hamburger stand... not ideal for grease source, but it's free and 1/2 mile away, plus he generates alot and changes the grease fairly often. Not to mention my wife owns a homemade soap company, so the idea of excess glycerin (which we buy 6-7hundred pounds of a year) would be a great bonus.
well back to google... lot to learn, never enough time.
drew
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Originally Posted by DeepRoots
here is another question, I've been shopping around for a 7.3liter f250 and was intending on running biodiesel etc.
I have two trucks in mind, one being 94 turbo and one being the older 89 without....
which will run better with the grease/bio?
thanks
dp
I have two trucks in mind, one being 94 turbo and one being the older 89 without....
which will run better with the grease/bio?
thanks
dp
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I read that there are at least 2 types of bio diesel. The fuel made from cooking grease is the kind that will solidify at low temperature, and thus, it has to have some kind of additives to raise the solidifying temperature.
Then there are all the other ways to make it, which have a high naturally occuring solidifying temperature.
So, if you fill up on cooking grease in California, at 90f and drive north to Canada where it's -30f , well, the fuel will solidify in all the fuel lines and pumps etc.
At least that's how I understand it.
Then there are all the other ways to make it, which have a high naturally occuring solidifying temperature.
So, if you fill up on cooking grease in California, at 90f and drive north to Canada where it's -30f , well, the fuel will solidify in all the fuel lines and pumps etc.
At least that's how I understand it.
Last edited by BlueFace; Apr 5, 2005 at 12:46 AM.
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All vehicle makers say not, or low percentage. There engines have not been tested nor has the fuel been "approved" by them for use. Disclaimer. Of course from my research on the web about bio lately European diesels handle bio better than American ones? But then they sell alot more bio in europe also.
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From: Paradise Found!
I'ts been awhile
Hi everybody. Sorry i'ts been awhile since my last post. Have been real busy lately! To all those who have sent private messages, I am working on a personal web site so I can post the pictures of my set up. It may take 4 to5 weeks tho so please be patient. My partner and I just sold our gold mine and the new owners Hired me as general manager for the mine. I have only 5 weeks to put together a 40 man crew and buy $1,000,000 worth of heavy equipt, the mine is at 7000' so can only be worked 90 days/year. Also had to find a body to help my wife and son on the farm. Yes we are still making bio, we are making 500 gal a week. Just signed a 1 year contract to haul 1000 gal/ week from local french fry plant. Still talking with 3 more plants. Since oregon just passed a new law requiring local power companys to buy power produced from biodiesel at fair market value we are looking at buying a large [200 kw] generator set and converting our bio directly into elec power. This would bypass the fed rules for selling bio completly!!! Cool huh? Will try to post more often,and will try to get the website up soon. FABMANDELUX
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Great to find this forum. I had been reading the technical web articles on making bio-diesel and thought it sounded way too technical. These posts make it sound relatively easy. Can anyone recommend a website for small producers?
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From: Delavan, IL
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"From the Fryer To the Fuel Tank" is an excellent book about Bio-diesel. I used it as a primary reference when I did my science/engineering project my senior year in high school. They even tell you how to make your own home "brewery" if that's what you like to call it.
As to the Gel Point of Bio-diesel... About 40-50' F for 100% with B-20 the lesser blends the temperature is increased. Basically, if you live anywhere north of Texas you can only run it during the heat of summer.
As to the Gel Point of Bio-diesel... About 40-50' F for 100% with B-20 the lesser blends the temperature is increased. Basically, if you live anywhere north of Texas you can only run it during the heat of summer.
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From: York, PA
Gel-Point revisited, the higher the Free Fatty Acids (FFA) the higher the gel-point, Brown grease has the highest gel-point, can be higher that 80'F, yellow grease (fryer oil) made right can have a gel-point as good as Virgin soybean oil 30-32'F. I live in PA, I have an '85 VW Golf that we ran all winter on B50. If I would have kept it inside out of the cold weather and used it when needed, I could have burned B100 for sure without an issue, We had -digits this year also. There is issues with Biodiesel as per the same with Diesel fuel, you just have to learn how to deal with them.
biodieselnow.com is a good site ......... just one of many
biodieselnow.com is a good site ......... just one of many
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which truck?
I'm looking for a family/work truck and plan to convert it in the future to run off wvo. Would anyone be able to give me advice on what year would suit me best?
I want a diesel,4x4,crew cab,auto transmission. I was thinking of going with an older model that doesn't have all the computer electronics dependency and one that has non-power windows and locks. Also do you know if it's possible to install a turbo that uses all the fancy schmancy computers but put in a bypass if needed (there is a theory out there that an attack could render most of our modern vehicles out of commission b/c of the computer chips in them)
thanks and God bless you
I want a diesel,4x4,crew cab,auto transmission. I was thinking of going with an older model that doesn't have all the computer electronics dependency and one that has non-power windows and locks. Also do you know if it's possible to install a turbo that uses all the fancy schmancy computers but put in a bypass if needed (there is a theory out there that an attack could render most of our modern vehicles out of commission b/c of the computer chips in them)
thanks and God bless you
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