Im happy with my V10. Performance is great, the only change I would welcome is more MPG. But not at the cost of performance. I can live with 14mpg. Build it or don't, im in no hurry to get a new truck right now.

 

They just did major improvements to it (the 5.4). I think the 5.4 is a great engine, and a good match with the lighter versions of the F150. The problem is that it is just too small for the heavier versions of the F150 or any SuperDuty. I don't think the 5.4 should be replaced, but Ford needs a larger V8 as an option. After thinking about this talk of a "value" V8, I would rather them do it right or not at all. It would make for look bad after all of this hype about the hurricane, and then when they finally introduce a large 6.1 V8, and it isn't even to the levels of the smaller hemi or Endurance V8's. The 6.1 needs at least 370hp and 400+ tq, as the 5.7 hemi will soon be bumped to 350/390. I would also like to see the 6.1's power curve extended another 500rpm or so over the 5.4.

 

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Thanks for the info. This is the first that I've seen anything about the Value V-8. The ASE site doesn't say much, but does at least mention it.

 

How hard can it be for Ford to give us the 5.4 with the four valve Navigator heads and variable valve timing on both intake and exhaust? That would go a long way toward solving the "out of wind" feel. We've got plenty of torque down low, but a change in heads to four valves (parts already developed and on the shelves), would give us what we need down low and up top. That would at least hold us until something new gets developed.

The modular engine is stout. It has proven to have a long life. It just needs to breathe a little better and that is not that darned hard to fix.

 

I'm with you there, Armada. They had the Cobra R cylinder heads and cams, it seems like all they need is VVT for a 4 valve.

 

Thanks too all who replied to my post. This site gets quite a few "hits"! I have no word what is happening, if inded anything. Rawsonville UAW local signed at contract back in June 2004 and a good part of the reason it passed was that Ford made Rawsonville the sole supplier on the Hurricane and Value V8 engine fuel delivery programs, instead of sending the whole deal to Mexico as Chrysler did with their V8 engine. It was a hard fight to get Ford to agree to keeping the work in Michigan. Keep an "eye" towards the UAW local news as if this is true then there will definitly be the feeling of a "sellout". I had hoped some one would have some solid info, but I guess "chill out" and wait is best.

 

Thats funny, they build a GT supercar, and sell 7 for all of last year, it probably cost them millions to build those cars and they sold them for only 139K.''

Yet if they were to build a big V8 they could potentially boost sales by as much as 20%. Thats about how much Dodge boosted sales by introducing the 5.7.

 

I agree that Ford is goofy for building a car for the rich, but possibly cancelling the Hurricane. They'd sell a LOT more trucks and cars with "off the showroom floor snort" than they could ever possibly sell GT's and other big buck sportscars. If Ford doesn't come up with something, I think it's entirely possible that a lot of people will buy the "other" brand simply for the immediate gratification of not having to invest more $$ to make their new car/ truck fast. After all the cost of buying a new vehicle, there's a lot of us who can't afford to immediately add a supercharger, bigger cam, etc.

Of course .. I won't be buying anything new unless Ford decides to put manual tranny back in trucks with a decent V-8. But... that's another thread.

 

Goofy is a nice way to put it, Fordlover. The GT and it's ilk make no sense to me when the real money making car and truck lines are in need of help.

 

I agree that it makes no since to invest the kind of money that they have in the GT, a car for the rich people, when they could have invested that money in a larger V8 for the F150, something the common man would benefit from. It's especially disheartening when you think about how much money they probably lost on the GT. It also made the Ford brand as a whole look bad when Ford had to recall all 448 GT's made for suspension problems that could cause loss of control. These people dished out 140k, and then told not to drive them, they bought a GT not a Focus! Building a supercar is a risky proposition, and you have to get it right. Not good news when you have 3 TSB's and one major recall right off the bat. A new high powered V8 would have been a much better investment, and also benefited their loyal fans.

 

Building a Super Car is not about money; Ford is using it as advertising.....no different then the money the spend every year for Promotion, this one just rolls And actually has a slight ROI (return on investment) in the form of cash

 

I believe they sold a lot more than 7 of them last year, I recall that they couldn't keep them in the showrooms.

 

I was just looking at that, they sold 7 last month.

However, my point still stands.

 

In the end, yes it is all about the money. And Ford was using the GT as a marketing tool showing that they can build an exotic car that will beat all exotics costing much more, and also to show that they have the technology to move a car from concept to the street in much less time than ever before. This was the major backfire of the GT as it had the TSB's and recall's( a do not drive). This hurts the image of Ford who was trying to prove they could do it, but failed-and was more or less amplified by the media.

 

The did not fail, a TSB/do not drive... is not a failure of the program....