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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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In the short time I have been on this site I have heard alot about gauges(tran temp, egt and boost), and I have heard alot about fuel pressure that could cause problems with power etc. Is worth it or even practical to put in a fuel pressure gauge along with egt, boost and trans temp?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:30 AM
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It is worth while to check the fuel pressure but not practical to have a permanently installed gauge. The fuel pressure is checked at idle. When you rev up the engine the fuel pressure fluctuates and surges which in turn will destroy even the best gauge in a short period of time. It is best to use a liquid filled gauge when checking the pressure because of the fluctuation.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 06:06 AM
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There is an on line vendor that makes a permanent, liquid filled gauge that is designed for under hood. Threads right into your regulator with a bracket. Does come in handy when troubleshooting.

http://www.dieselinnovations.com/

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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I installed a permanent fuel gauge under the hood. Got some 1/8" npt fitting at lowes and a 0-200 psi liquid filled gauge at Tractor supply. Not very practical but I thought the 10 bucks was worth it just to see whats goin on,and it gave me some cool points with the friends!
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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If you mount one permanently under the hood it is a good idea to put a shut-off valve on it. The pressure surges will ruin the gauge.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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I had one installed on my PSD from Diesel Innovations under the hood for 2 years without a burp.
Worked perfectly.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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I had one installed on my PSD from Diesel Innovations under the hood for 2 years without a burp.
Worked perfectly.
If I put on under the hood where wouls it go?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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The one Diesel innovations sells mounts to the alternator bracket I think. You can mount it anywhere you want though.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Crumm
The one Diesel innovations sells mounts to the alternator bracket I think. You can mount it anywhere you want though.
I was just looking at their website and that is what I wanted and it shows the pics of the mounting. Thanks for all the cool info.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Crumm
If you mount one permanently under the hood it is a good idea to put a shut-off valve on it. The pressure surges will ruin the gauge.
I've had my truck on the dyno three times in three years...my fuel pressure will hold 70 psi from idle to 3400 rpm, and if there is any flux, it's not enough for me to be able to see the needle move (150 psi gauge). The only time I've ever seen any deflection in the fuel pressure was a few months back when my pump was in the middle of crapping out. Back to rock steady with the new pump, and no indication of any sort of problem with the mechanical guge.

Autometer makes a nice electric fuel pressure gauge for in the cab, but it's kinda pricey for a "gee whiz" gauge.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Crumm
If you mount one permanently under the hood it is a good idea to put a shut-off valve on it. The pressure surges will ruin the gauge.
Buy a good gage and that won't be a problem. When I shimmed my stock regulator I put a Diesel Innovations test gage set up on my truck, bracket mounted to the alternator, for over a year, no problem with the gage. I took that set up off and put the stock plug back in the filter housing when I went to the next fuel mod. I now have a JNB regulated return system that has an external fuel regulator and Marshall gage, guaranteed for life.
 

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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What range would you need on a gauge to monitor the fuel pressure? 0-200?

Also the good gauges have pressure snubbers built in to reduce the effects of fluctuation. Snubbers are also available separately through industrial suppliers.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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200 PSI might be excesive, Cookie has a 150 and I think that might evenbe over doing it. When I get mine it will be a 100 PSI liquid filled, stock is 53, most shimmed regulator will run 65-80, anything above 75 will start to fry a lift pump. I dont know what you wanna run the electrics at I would guess you could go higher on those. But to make this any longer 100 PSI wil be fine, will give a nice, full sweep to the gauge. goes back to my obsession of trying to "peg" all my gauges.


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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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It just so happens that I have a brand new Autometer Phantom fuel pressure gauge with the remote isolator sitting in my pile of good stuff. Like everything else it won't work for my truck because it's 0-15 psi for a carbureted (sp?) gasser. Anyone want to trade for a pyro gauge?
 
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