Transfer Case or Motor
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From: Crustucky (Crestview) Florida
Transfer Case or Motor
Here's something that I would like everyones opinion on. I have 4:56.1 gears with lockers and am looking for a way to get more power to turn bigger meats than 35 inchers. In your opinion what would you do? Install a bigger motor, or get an Atlas II with the 4:33 gear ratio and do minor upgrades to the 302? Right now I'm torn between the two, so let me know what you think, or past experiences you might have in either area. Thanks..
-Ry
1985 F-150 302 4X4
Dana 44 TTB / 9 inch
4.56:1 Front/True-Trac
4.56:1 Rear/Detroit Locker
C-6 Tranny, NP208 Transfer
6 inch Skyjacker Class II lift
35 X 12.50 BFGoods AT's
-Ry
1985 F-150 302 4X4
Dana 44 TTB / 9 inch
4.56:1 Front/True-Trac
4.56:1 Rear/Detroit Locker
C-6 Tranny, NP208 Transfer
6 inch Skyjacker Class II lift
35 X 12.50 BFGoods AT's
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Hmmm,
Thought I'd at least get one or two opinions, hehe
-Ry
1985 F-150 302 4X4
Dana 44 TTB / 9 inch
4.56:1 Front/True-Trac
4.56:1 Rear/Detroit Locker
C-6 Tranny, NP208 Transfer
6 inch Skyjacker Class II lift
35 X 12.50 BFGoods AT's
Thought I'd at least get one or two opinions, hehe
-Ry
1985 F-150 302 4X4
Dana 44 TTB / 9 inch
4.56:1 Front/True-Trac
4.56:1 Rear/Detroit Locker
C-6 Tranny, NP208 Transfer
6 inch Skyjacker Class II lift
35 X 12.50 BFGoods AT's
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From: Crustucky (Crestview) Florida
Transfer Case or Motor
And again, nothing...
-Ry
1985 F-150 302 4X4
Dana 44 TTB / 9 inch
4.56:1 Front/True-Trac
4.56:1 Rear/Detroit Locker
C-6 Tranny, NP208 Transfer
6 inch Skyjacker Class II lift
35 X 12.50 BFGoods AT's
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-Ry
1985 F-150 302 4X4
Dana 44 TTB / 9 inch
4.56:1 Front/True-Trac
4.56:1 Rear/Detroit Locker
C-6 Tranny, NP208 Transfer
6 inch Skyjacker Class II lift
35 X 12.50 BFGoods AT's
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displaythumbnail.php?&photoid=3725&.jpg
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From: Coutts Canada
Transfer Case or Motor
Bigger motor, you won't reget it.
82' Flareside with plenty of go and show to.
2/4 Drop
Soon to have 325hp 351 Clevo
(maybe more,in a 3600lb truck)
Backed by a C6 with a 2000 rpm stall and a 3.50 9 incher
American Racing AR-23 (series 23) wheels
Upgraded interior
Soon to have a kick @$$ stereo
82' Flareside with plenty of go and show to.
2/4 Drop
Soon to have 325hp 351 Clevo
(maybe more,in a 3600lb truck)
Backed by a C6 with a 2000 rpm stall and a 3.50 9 incher
American Racing AR-23 (series 23) wheels
Upgraded interior
Soon to have a kick @$$ stereo
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From: Conyers
Transfer Case or Motor
Sorry about that.....I haven't been able to type real well cause of a finger being hurt, I've seen it a couple of times. I'd say change gearing if you don't have the money for a motor. If you want more power on the highway, then the T-case won't help you until you get into 4 low.
Even better, just do both.
Even better, just do both.
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hehe, thanks guys. I was messing around with my avatar for the last couple posts trying to see if I could get it to display right. I had to write something 
I'm not to worried about highway speed so I think I'm leaning along the lines of gearing. I talked with a Rep at Advanced adapters and he said if I went with an atlas II my end crawl ratio would end up around 52:1. After he told me that I was kind of sold. I'm thinking I'll go that route first and then upgrade my tranny a bit and then tinker with my motor. I think with that low of a ratio that I wont need to worry about whether or not I have enough horsepower. The end result should be the same. Thanks for the input guys.
-Ry
1985 F-150 302 4X4
Dana 44 TTB / 9 inch
4.56:1 Front/True-Trac
4.56:1 Rear/Detroit Locker
C-6 Tranny, NP208 Transfer
6 inch Skyjacker Class II lift
35 X 12.50 BFGoods AT's
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displaythumbnail.php?&photoid=3725&.jpg
I'm not to worried about highway speed so I think I'm leaning along the lines of gearing. I talked with a Rep at Advanced adapters and he said if I went with an atlas II my end crawl ratio would end up around 52:1. After he told me that I was kind of sold. I'm thinking I'll go that route first and then upgrade my tranny a bit and then tinker with my motor. I think with that low of a ratio that I wont need to worry about whether or not I have enough horsepower. The end result should be the same. Thanks for the input guys.
-Ry
1985 F-150 302 4X4
Dana 44 TTB / 9 inch
4.56:1 Front/True-Trac
4.56:1 Rear/Detroit Locker
C-6 Tranny, NP208 Transfer
6 inch Skyjacker Class II lift
35 X 12.50 BFGoods AT's
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displaythumbnail.php?&photoid=3725&.jpg
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From: Crustucky (Crestview) Florida
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Okay, this is the last time I'm going to post a needless post. Sorry, but I had to try it one more time... 
-Ry
1985 F-150 302 4X4
Dana 44 TTB / 9 inch
4.56:1 Front/True-Trac
4.56:1 Rear/Detroit Locker
C-6 Tranny, NP208 Transfer
6 inch Skyjacker Class II lift
35 X 12.50 BFGoods AT's
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displaythumbnail.php?&photoid=3725&.jpg
-Ry
1985 F-150 302 4X4
Dana 44 TTB / 9 inch
4.56:1 Front/True-Trac
4.56:1 Rear/Detroit Locker
C-6 Tranny, NP208 Transfer
6 inch Skyjacker Class II lift
35 X 12.50 BFGoods AT's
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displaythumbnail.php?&photoid=3725&.jpg
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Transfer Case or Motor
Low gearing? Ya hardly need low gearing when you're packin' a BIG BLOCK!!! Go with the bigger engine, you'll be nuthin' but pleased.
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 11-May-02 AT 08:36 AM (EST)]I remember seeing an article in Fourwheeler about mating two transfer cases together to get even lower gearing. Rock crawlers do this type of thing all the time. I just don't remember what issue it was in thought. They have a web site www.fourwheeler.com, go figure right.
I was just looking at a Fourwheeler mag and saw this you might be interested. The editor was answering a question and this was in his answer. "Then, install either a 4:1 T-case reduction kit from Advance Adapters, a 4.7 Marlin Crawler (Marlin's Automotive, 209/252-7295) low range kit, or one of the kits that allow the usage of two tranfer cases in tandem." The person who asked the original question owned a Toyota but I don't think that matters. Call Advance Adapters as well they might have more alternatives (805/238-7000, www.advanceadapters.com).
Just some thoughts.
Justin
I was just looking at a Fourwheeler mag and saw this you might be interested. The editor was answering a question and this was in his answer. "Then, install either a 4:1 T-case reduction kit from Advance Adapters, a 4.7 Marlin Crawler (Marlin's Automotive, 209/252-7295) low range kit, or one of the kits that allow the usage of two tranfer cases in tandem." The person who asked the original question owned a Toyota but I don't think that matters. Call Advance Adapters as well they might have more alternatives (805/238-7000, www.advanceadapters.com).
Just some thoughts.
Justin
