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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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I have had 5 different exhaust configs on the truck and this on seems to be the best. Good low end torque very responsive on the highway speeds but the best part it is the only exhaust the has lowered my egt by 225 deg while towing. No mileage change. What smog canister , never saw and you can't prove it
 
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Daddy
I posted about this last year. I got alot of negative feedback regarding using dual exhaust on my 97 PSD. Basically, it was said, that the flow rate would be higher with a single 4" pipe than two 2.5" dual pipes! It all made sense though. I had alot of techical posts on that thread. I'll try to locate it.
No need for any technical posts - it is a simple math problem. How much the pipe can flow is primarily dependant on the cross-sectional area of the pipe - (pi) times (radius of the pipe) times (radius of the pipe), or pi (r) squared. (pi is appproximately equal to 3.1416, r = the radius, or one-half the diameter of the pipe)

A single 4-inch pipe is (3.1416) x (2 in.) x (2 in.) = 12.6 square inches
2 2.5-inch pipes is (3.1416) x (1.25 in.) x (1.25 in.) x 2[ pipes} = 9.82 square inches.

In other words, all else being equal, a single 4-inch pipe has 28% more cross-sectional area than two 2.5-inch pipes. In order to exceed the cross-sectional area of one 4-inch pipe, you would need duals of almost 3-inch diameter - and that still doesn't mean that size duals would flow as well as a single 4-incher.

In short, if you are going to use two 4-inch tailpipes, no problem. If you use two 2.5 inch tailpipes, you will see an increase in backpressure, and probably an increase in EGT and decrease in performance. Probably.
 

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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by arninetyes
and decrease in performance. Probably.
Although I do admire your math equations, and you are correct that a 4 inch would flow more, But i would be carefull in saying a "decrease" in performance for a dual 2.5...... because they flow a little less, you can keep some of the low end that you would normally loose w/ a stock rig and 4" exhuast... the 4" is great if your running up higher in the rev band.... but a 2.5*2 will keep at least some of the low end for ya.... i'm very happy w/ my dual 2.5 er's... my .02

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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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You are correct, robb. Please note the "probably". That was put there because of the extreme variables in setup and performance between different trucks.

Just wanted to give a reasonable reason for the difference in flow between the two exhaust types.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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i thought that backpressure didn't matter with diesels ??? Also is it possible to by this 1 4" to 2 4" Y pipe online or do I have to have it custom made??
 

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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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would a 4" midpipe then splits out to dual 4" be better then a 5" midpipe and that splitting out to 4"s?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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arnintyes, thanks for figuring that out!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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It doesent matter if it is a 4" or 5" midpipe, I did 5" because it gives it a lower tone to the exhaust sound, you can find premade splitters at any place that carries diesel truck exhaust components.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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It doesent matter if it is a 4" or 5" midpipe, I did 5" because it gives it a lower tone to the exhaust sound, you can find premade splitters at any place that carries diesel truck exhaust components.
yeah thats exactly what I want to do...haha i have 3 questions for u: stainless or aluminized? where did you get it done? and where do your tips come out?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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I have three answers possibly - 14 gage aluminized ( it will all depends on your environment what tape of tubing) , did it myself (I own a shop), behind the wheels at a 45 deg angle any questions?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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I was just thinking, when I do my duals, they will go over the rear axle, but dump at an angle facing down on each side behind the rear tires. I don't know if I would go as big as 4" a side or not. Sounds like the performance of the 2.5" or 3" duals might be best for a slightly modded truck. I don't want to be breathing all those diesel fumes while I'm hooking or unhooking my trailers!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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I was just thinking, when I do my duals, they will go over the rear axle, but dump at an angle facing down on each side behind the rear tires. I don't know if I would go as big as 4" a side or not. Sounds like the performance of the 2.5" or 3" duals might be best for a slightly modded truck. I don't want to be breathing all those diesel fumes while I'm hooking or unhooking my trailers!
Stay with the 3-inchers... 2.5s will reduce flow.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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I have three answers possibly - 14 gage aluminized ( it will all depends on your environment what tape of tubing) , did it myself (I own a shop), behind the wheels at a 45 deg angle any questions?
do you sell any of your stuff like on ebay or something??
 
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Old Jan 28, 2005 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Daddy
I was just thinking, when I do my duals, they will go over the rear axle, but dump at an angle facing down on each side behind the rear tires. I don't know if I would go as big as 4" a side or not. Sounds like the performance of the 2.5" or 3" duals might be best for a slightly modded truck. I don't want to be breathing all those diesel fumes while I'm hooking or unhooking my trailers!
I got stock DP, into 3" back to a Y-pipe and 2.5er's to 4" tips, works great and saved me some low end, having a slight backpressure. for my slightely modded truck this is enough... and it sounds different that 3, this has more turbo sound compared to 3, i don't have any idea why, but a buddy of mine did his w/ 3 inch and it sounds different than mine, deeper tone, which is nice, but the turbo whisle which i love is almost drounded out.... just my .02.... I'm not going to go crazy w/ my rig, a few mods here and there, and that seems to be sufficent... good luck!!

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Old Jan 30, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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The larger pipe will create a resonance inside and inturn will give it a deeper tone. You shound hear one of these trucks with a 6" tailpipe on it. If you don't want to go to 4" or 5" pipe a 3 1/2 dp with a 3 1/2 midpipe split into two 3" tail pipes works great on these trucks that are slightly modded, we have done a few of these and the guys like them.

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