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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Unhappy Burning Oil

I have a 2000 F150 5.4L 4X4 supercab with 69,000 miles that seams to be burning about 2 qts. every 3000 miles. I do not know the history of the truck, just purchased it at Thanksgiving. I am now assuming the previous owner did not change the oil and the rings are sticking. Sometime on a cold start it blows some blue smoke.

Suggestions for improvement?

My thoughts are to use a detergent oil and change it every 2000 mile for the next few months hoping the rings (if that is the issue) will loosen.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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That would be a good thing... I'd check to see if it's leaking... 2 quarts over 3k miles isn't really a lot... It's enough to be checking things like the intake, vavle covers, and front and rear main seals though.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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No leaks at all, everything is very clean...too clean infact. Thanks for the quick response
 
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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Change the PCV valve first. It could be sucking too much oil into the intake. Blue smoke on start-up is usually a sign of bad valve guide seals.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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jg,

Yes, you are onto the best approach. As mentioned change the PCV valve for good measure and add two things to your recipe;

Drain the oil when the engine is hot. This will get more junk out of the engine because it is stirred up in the oil.

For this cleaning period, use what is called a "Universal" grade oil. This is the oil that is used in the diesel big rigs. To handle the diesel soot, these oils have lots of detergent and will clean an engine like crazy. They are certified for use in gas engines as well as diesel. Examples of these oils are; Chevron Delo Multigrade (what I use in everything gas or diesel,) Shell Rotella T and Mobil Delvac. There are others but these are the most common. You can find them at Wal Mart or if necessary a truck stop or truck shop.

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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Here is what Ford says.......

Vehicles in normal service should get at least 1,450 km per liter (900 miles per quart) after 16,000 km (10,000 miles) of service. High speed driving, towing, high ambient temperature and other factors may result in greater oil use.

I wouldn't be happy with a quart every 900 miles but Ford says that's acceptable
 
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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My 2001 Screw 5.4L starting burning 1 quart of oil every 2 or 3 tanks of gas at 70,000 miles. I don't know about you but i have driven a lot of V8's in the last 30 years and they simply should not burn oil if everything is working OK. I don't have any leaks and from my symptoms (smokes on startup after sitting over night) it indicates bad valve seals. I am going to replace them in a few weeks and let you know how it goes.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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Excellent information everyone, it helps me.

I had a 1991 F150 4X4 300 I6 shorty that never ever needed oil, even after 125K miles. Great truck, little sorry I sold it.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Before replacing my valve seals, I went ahead a replaced the PCV valve hoping for a quick easy fix. I took out the original valve and checked it. The PCV valve was stuck in the open position. My truck runs like never before. Its too early to see if it fixed my oil burning problem but I am hopefull. When a PCV sticks open it hurts your engine performance under load like accerating or lugging up a hill. It also causes oil to be sucked in the intake manifold area. 3 weesk or so i should know whether or not my oil buring problem has been fixed.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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How often should the PCV valve be changed or checked. Also, and please forgive my ignorance, where is it located in my 1997 F150. I'm not burning oil but may help my performance which fits the description from above.

Thanks!
 
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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My truck was smoking blue on start up and while it was under warranty, I took it to the dealer. They kept the truck overnight and gave it back to me making me feel stupid. It still smoked so I read somewhere on this site about changing the PCV valve, and guess what? No more smokey! You guys are the best.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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I can not tell you exactly where the PCV is on your 1997 F150 but it is on one of the valve covers. There will be a black hose about 5/8" OD coming off the vavle. Just go to Autozone and buy a PCV valve for $3 or $4 and they can show you where it is if you can not find it. Typicaly the hose from the factory is just pushed on and not clamped. You don't even need any tools to change it. To check your old on one do this - take your valve out and gently suck air thru it with your mouth (the end the hose was attached too), momentarily put your finger over the other end (the end that was in the vavle cover) and you will hear/feel the valve close when you plug the end with your finger. If the valve is plugged shut, stuck open or sticky/slow to close and open then its bad.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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Thank you! Will get on it tomorrow after removing the foot of snow we got today.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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mine went from 0qts/mi to 2qts/3000mi, turned out to be leaving through the head gasket, junked my truck... still wimpering over it...
 
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