Well how about a little more trivia ? Not only is "FE" thought to be Ford Edsel or Ford Engine but also Fairlane Engine !

 

The Fairlane Engine acronym was proven false by Ford documants already. Hawkrod

 

Yeah I know , but it's still interesting . I always understood FE to refer to Ford Engine , and has even been used that way by some popular automotive magizines .

 

Hawkrod...I'm trying to scan in that pic but two things are causing me problems. #1 the glaze on the pic makes the image very light and #2 I can't put anything into my gallery or I'm not doing it right.

 

could also stand for Friggen Eh..... lets go whup some chebby asses. hehehehe love all my fe's all been bullet proof.

 

I love my 352FE. I just rebuilt it (see sig for build details) and this engine is a screamer. Its amazing what headers, a Holley, and a mild cam will do for an FE. They run forever. I know several FE's that went past 300k. Definlty a lot stronger engine overall then a chevy engine. It had a few oilling system issues that Ford screwed up on but nevertheless it is one badass motor. One of Fords most powerful motor was the 660HP Dual Quad 427FE. Ford also made a 360 4v 352 that feauterd a solid cam, aluminum intake, facotry headers, and a Holley. It was put in the 1960 Fairlane. That was before Ford had drilled the FE blocks for hyd cams.

 

FE's got hydraulic lifters in late 58. The production 427 only produced 425 horsepower with 2 four barrel carbs. The SOHC and the tunnelport were two other 427's that were not regular production engines and did produce more horsepower. Hawkrod

 

No your info is wrong. They had 620 with a single 4bl carb setup and 660 with 2 4bbls. I am wrong on when the blocks were drilled but I do know that the 1960 352FE had solid lifters and 360hp.

 

A lot of people wish you were correct but unfortunately I am sorry but you are mistaken. I do not know where you got the information but it is not correct. Feel free to do a web search as you will find I am correct. A single 4V 427 was 410HP and a dual 4V was 425HP on all production cars. The 1960 360HP 352 was a special engine, it was not the regular 352 that most cars got. They are quite rare and very valuable. I think the current accepted estimate is that at least 95% of the 352 in 1960 were hydraulic lifter 300 horsepower models. For a brief history of fullsize Fords you may want to look at: http://www.dearbornclassics.com/galaxie.html this site does show the horsepower ratings of the various special engines over the years. Hawkrod

 

A few years ago when I was putting together my last 390 I remember standing in a book store and looking at a book that was all about Ford big block engines. They had a lot of info on an FE that you never see. I was called a "Side Oiler" is what I remember for sure. The rest is not for sure but it seems that the engines had solid lifters, four bolt mains, and I believe an external oil pump. Somebody check me on these specs. I know I have never seen one. I wonder if they were even production engines.

I bet an FE could go a million miles if treated right. Especially if it could be ran from mile 1 on todays much improved motor oils.

 

I understood FoMoCo to still be running the FE's at Willow Run through July 30 of 57, so if RanchRods Dad had one he may have ordered it in June of 57, but could not have had it delivered before August of that year. I'd be curious to know what Transmission it came with too. I understood that was not available before thr 58 production run started. which again was sometime in July of 57.

Black3504dr. . . . I see a lot of "Popular Magazines" identify things incorrectly all the time. I stopped buying Hot Rod, which I had subscribed to for years when they laid on the straw that broke the oxens back in an article, with pictures yet! of some Jerk who the author & camrea guy claim was custom Installing a 9" FoMoCo in his 57 Ford car.
They called it a 57 Fairlane 500, only it was a Fairlane 300, which, along with every other 57 Ford Automobile, came with 9' FoMoCo rear ends from the factory. Some stuff is even more preposterous than that.
Doug, I didn't mean to step on your toes, or put you down. As you can see from this thread there's a lot of mis-information out there. But I'll tell ya what, this forum will get it right, and not based on opinions either.
Bear in mind every once in a while I know I screw up! Someone usually sets me back right again, and I thank them for it when they do. My position is; What good is info & data if it's not accurate, corect and relevant?
FER Racing, those numbers are way off. I wrenched on a Thunderbolt for a dealer I worked at who campaigned the car. If we had what you claim, nobody would've ever heard of Bill Jenkins and his Z-11s.

I'm agree with Hawkrod 100% a single 4V was 410. There was a 427 in a 66 Fairlane posted sedan, with dual offset holley 4Vs that also made 410. The car was from Texas and was the National Champion 1/4 mile car for several years in a row. I'd never seen one before and have not seen one since, but this guy had documentation and NHRA bought it as legit.
But as HAwkrod said the common dual quad (2-4V) engine was a 425 adv HP engine.
Smokey Yunick (The Best Damn Garage In Town, here in Daytona) was massaging the 427s and claimed 600HP for his NASCAR Engines, and so did Holman & Moody up in Charlotte, NC. But 600hp in the street with a FoMoCo 427 is like running a Yates or an Elliot 351W and claiming 700hp with a factory engine. . . . ie not true.

FBp

 

Wow, I didn't mean to set off an explosion over the FE. Those revelations about Ford running FE's and Merc's not is one that needs to be researched further. We have a retired Mercury/Lincoln rep who resides in Rockwall. He says that several end of production year Mercurys were equipped with the 332 FE. Then when engine production was caught up after retool shut down the practice was discontinued. This was not the only time this happened, he recalled a '60 Mercury that showed up at a dealer with Ford seat upholstery. He said "cross parting" between Ford divisions was common when model year end production required. About that Texas Fairlane it was equipped with a NASCAR style 427 and I believe unless I'm dreaming that engine was built by Holman & Moody. That should be easy to check out. That 600 + engine was never offered in a retail sale vehicle because it was a privately built engine not a "factory" off the line engine. Did Holman & Moody ever publish the horsepower of their engines, accurately? (HeHe) Not that I can remember.

 

RanchRods,
we're saying the same thing here. What I'm saying is it was not possible to get an FE in a "57 anything" during a regular production year or model run, but between the end of June & the middle of August lots of strange things could & did happen. I can't speak to Mercurys faux pas but I will stick by FE's still being tested through June of 57 & not being released until after that session or so the story goes according to books I read on FoMoCo.

There were several models built that do not appear in any service or sales literature yet exist & rolled through dealerships either really late in one production cycle or really earlly in the "next" production cycle. I tuned & prepped a couple F100s in 66 which had the passenger car version of a 335HP- 390 CID, FE engines, and we all know you could not get a 390 in F Series, yet there they were with C-6 trannies and all. FWIW they weredelivered to a couple of "PooBahs" at the Local FoMoCo assembly plant. As far as I know, "officially" anyway, in 50's the only engine Ford shared with the Mercury division was their "Y" block, and in 312 CID. They did not share anything with Lincoln.

You're right I don't believe H&M released Horsepower or torque numbers. Most of that came from MRN and Press releases from NASCAR & the various competitors who ran in Nascar. I'm not sure yates, roush racing, nor any other NASCAR engine builders really publish their Horsepower today either. Most of it comes from commentaries and other outside soucrec, not NASCAR or the engine builders.

I think setting off explosions in a thread is a good thing, look at this wealth of "info" here! Lots of folks not only never heard anything about 1/2 this stuff, and/ or never thought about it either. I think heathy discussion and even disagreement is how we all learn/ grow in a subject. The more we learn the better off we'll all be for it, especially if it's new material those of us who have a thirst to learn. But that's just my opinion.
Sorry about your eyes, John.
FBp

 

The 58 Edsel had 2 engines the FE was a 360,if I remember right. (my archives are 600 miles away). The 410 (called E 475 due to the torque specs) was not an FE as the combustion chamber was in the block, similar I think to the 430 Merc.

 

Hows about the two Edsel engines being 332 and 361 FEs?


John