Oil Filters
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Oil Filters
A friend of mine gave me a bag full of oil filters, head lights and other Ford stuff that he bought on sale several years ago when he had a Ford P/Up. He sold the truck when the price of gas started going too high and bought a little Honda since the job was an hour and a half from home. The head lights I can't use because their the older sealed beam type. I was wondering if those oil filters would still be good to use after about eight or ten years sitting. Their still in the box and were in a plastic bag. Does that filter material deteriorate over time ? I know their cheap enough, but if I already have them, why not use them.
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Well it depends where they were sitting. I'd examine them for any signs of rust. If you see rust on the outside, there is probably some on the inside. If they look ok go ahead and use 'em. They're not Fram are they?
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I have to go back out to the shop and look. He gave them to me a while ago and I forgot all about them untill now when I was going to go out and buy one. It seems Fram is getting a bad rap in the forums, whats wrong with them ?
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The construction. They use cardboard end caps, glued on to the filter media. That, and the anti-drainback valve doesn't work. All the oil runs back into the pan. So your engine gets air on every startup for a little bit until the filter fills back up.
Some people have used them with success, but my theory is why chance it? There are so much better proven filters out there.
Some people have used them with success, but my theory is why chance it? There are so much better proven filters out there.
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Originally Posted by rusty70f100
Some people have used them with success, but my theory is why chance it? There are so much better proven filters out there.
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I only use FRAM never had an issue, my dad has always used it and all the shops he has been to only use FRAM, none of them have ever had an issue with any of their filters, these are on fleet trucks that get more abuse than my truck will ever see and no problems.
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I used to use Fram's and was happy with them. Then I cut one open and decided to use wix or motorcraft. It's peace of mind for me. Use whatever you want. I don't like to bash Fram since they do meet minimum standards. I know plenty of people who have used frams with no problems for thousands of miles. I just choose not to use them.
Back on subject. As Rusty said the filters should be just fine as long as there is no rust on them. I don't think the technology has changed much in recent years.
Back on subject. As Rusty said the filters should be just fine as long as there is no rust on them. I don't think the technology has changed much in recent years.
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Don't use the old filters. If they have been kept in a garage or shop where they are exposed to high humidity, like when it's raining and no A/C or heat, the paper element has the potential to fall apart. And of course, you won't know this until it is too late and one or more oil galleries are plugged up. Don't use the filters, new ones are far too cheap to chance it.
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Hmmm... I have a few filters for my old Firebird, that I bought when Trak went out of business. I'm cheaper than most, but if the paper could deteriorate, I guess I won't chance it. Wonder if I'll have any trouble finding filters for the Pontiac V8?
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Rusty70 & Saurian, are 100% correct, and right on, in my opinion. However, you could probably use a Fram as a "cheap flush" method, for example, use five quarts of bargain oil, the Fram, drive a 100 miles, then drain. For long term (and normal) use, use a quality brand name oil, and a quality oil filter, Motorcraft, Purolator, Wix etc. 
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I understand why Fram gets people riled but why does Amsoil?? Other than some of the Amsoil reps maybe?? You just have to understand it is not going to go 25,000 miles in every vehicle. But it is a good product. I will stick to Mobil 1 for my Explorer and Motorcraft for my F-150 though.
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It's the expensive price built into the multi-level marketing that Amsoil has that bring most objections, and also a tendency to thicken out-of-grade with time in some cases, and some UOA results which are inferior to other syn and/or dino oils.
