Anyone know when a 76 will not have to smoged in Cal?

Thanks

 

How about we move this to a California chapter where people from California live ?

 

The rule of thumb for the state of CA is 25 years old and older---no smog.

 

25 years is pretty standard in most states with emissions checks.

 

they just changed the laws, 1976 will ALWAYS have to be smogged. it just changed.

it really sucks, because I have several prized 76s in the back yard non-opped

1975 and older is exempt.

 

1976 vehicles may never be smog exempt in California. California doesn't go by the "25 years old and older" rule, only 1974 and earlier vehicles are smog exempt.

 

and I was waiting for Jan 1 to re-license the two trucks. this may be the last straw in my decision to leave California.

its either make them 75s, by buying parts trucks and swapping everything into new frames, or make them diesels. neither one is a good choice.

California sucks and is highly overrated anyway...

 

I don't know what you guys are talking about. The CA ARB web page still has the 30 year rule in place. Did the law change this year and they haven't updated their site.
I agree with the over rated post. Much too over rated. Well, SHUX! I JUST READ THE STATE JUST PASSED A BILL UPING THE RULE TO 35 YEARS AND OLDER. I suppose I need to look into how to register my truck as a classic. I can't afford this SMOG BS anymore. It cost me $160 last time for the technician to tinker around, and besides my turbo, roller 300 will be done by 2014! We're screwed. For those of you interested, it's AB 2683. The governator has let me down.

 

from the DMV website

When is a smog inspection required?

Currently, smog inspections are required for all vehicles except diesel powered vehicles, electric and natural gas powered vehicles, hybrids, motorcycles, trailers, or vehicles 30 model years old or older. Starting April 1, 2005, the smog exemption for vehicles 30 model years old or older will end. After that date all 1975 and older vehicles will be exempt from smog certification requirements.
How old does a vehicle have to be to qualify for a smog exemption?

Vehicles with a year model 30 years old or older are exempt from the smog certification requirements.

Example: The calendar year is 2004- 29 = 1975 exempt year model

The current calendar year minus 29 equals the year model exempt from smog certification.

Vehicles exempt from smog certification are listed above.

Note: Starting April 1, 2005, the smog exemption for vehicles 30 model years old or older will end. After that date all 1975 and older vehicles will be exempt from smog certification requirements.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm#BM2535

 

This is absolutley rediculous! I have been waiting seven years to build my 79 250. I cant believe this . I recieved a letter from the San Fransisco board of air quality offering me 500$ for my pickup because they think the quality of emissions is too low. My 351m passses with flying colors, while my 99 Acura Integra fails drastically. What is this flippin state coming to???!!!

 

Previously, California has enjoyed a rolling emissions exemption starting at 30 model-years and older. Notice that's model-years, not registered years or anything else. This means that if your 1975 F-250 needed a registration renewal this year, it wouldn't need a smog. (If it expired last year and you waited, it would.)

Gov. Schwarz-a-whatsit just recently signed in a law making that cutoff permanent, so that it won't advance to '76 next year. This means that '75 and older cars are exempt, and 76 and newer cars need smogs every 2 years, or when sold.

If you've been wanting to do a buildup of something, don't bother waiting around, just do it with smog-legal parts. Sure, you have to have a catalytic converter and an EGR valve and whatnot, but trust me this isn't that big of a deal. If you look in the latest issue of Engine Masters, there's a buildup of a 79 SBC that reaches the 450hp range, completely smog legal.

For a list of aftermarket parts that will pass the visual inspection, go to:

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php

This site has a form that lets you look up the executive order number from a specific part to see if it fits your car. Or you can get the whole list of a type of part, say exhaust mods, and search for your year/make.

 

when you have 15 or so vehicles, and they all need $100 a shot smog tests, it gets a little tiresome. especially after forking over $600 to register the damn thing.

this is the final straw, I'm offically house hunting in Missouri starting today...

 

Sure, when you put it that way it sounds excessive. Except, how much do you spend on maintenance parts/services per year on each car? Tires, air filter, engine/tranny/diff lube, let alone GAS! $100(at most) is not that much compared to, let's say, the value of the car.

I know smogs are a real hassle, but the program really does make people get rid of cars that puke out toxic fumes like no tomorrow. If the system makes you want to get rid of your gross polluter instead of repairing it, then it's actually doing it's job. (A gross polluter, by the way, is in the bottom 10% worst polluting vehicles. Gross polluters make up 40% of California's vehicle emissions.)

It sounds like you have quite an investment in time/money in your car collection. Spend a little more time and search around for a smog shop that will give you a deal. If you really have 15 cars to smog, any shop I've worked at would give you half price.

Pete (Who sits at work and listens to people complain about having to pay $78 to smog a $90,000 BMW...)

Edit: Also, who drives 15 different cars all the time? Odds are you trailer them or only drive them on limited mileage? Look into Non-Operating Vehicle registration, which not only costs a lot less but also doesn't need a smog check. It does require that you trailer the vehicle, but odds are you can find space to park the trailer.

 

Thanks, whd507 and other, for the current smog test facts. Sorry for posting out-of-date info.

 

kept in mind if on the pink slip says its use is ''commercial'' then there are special factors the truck can make more pollutants based on the weight rating and such