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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Question low hanging hitch

looking for answers for a friend with a 2003 E-150 5.4 with limited slip is a conversion van. he tows his boat with it and sometimes rubbs the hitch on the ground when lauching the boat(17' Four Winns outboard). Has anyone put a set of helper airbags to temp. lift the rear end. or use them to level the rear end when pulling a travel trailer?

thinking of using a set of Airlift bags.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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First make sure that he's not using a 4" drop reciever. That will do it 9 times out of 10. Just use a standard one. The boat trailer isn't heavy enough (unless it's a huge boat) to drop the back end that far. Our 2004's hitch is 12 3/4 inches from the ground to the top of the hole. HTH.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:53 AM
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the one on the van is tight to the bottom of the bumper(standard not the step bumper). the rubbing occurs when going down a step boat launch.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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Sounds like excessive tongue weight. I can tow a 2 axle car trailer with a car on it which comes in about 5K total and it barely moves the rear down.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by crash687
looking for answers for a friend with a 2003 E-150 5.4 with limited slip is a conversion van. he tows his boat with it and sometimes rubbs the hitch on the ground when lauching the boat(17' Four Winns outboard). Has anyone put a set of helper airbags to temp. lift the rear end. or use them to level the rear end when pulling a travel trailer?

thinking of using a set of Airlift bags.
I'd look into the Roadmaster suspension upgrade. It's fairly inexpensive, will stop rear end sag plus help handling. It's easily installed ta boot, Ken
 
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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Sounds like excessive tongue weight. I can tow a 2 axle car trailer with a car on it which comes in about 5K total and it barely moves the rear down.
it is not excessive tounge weight. the problems is when going up or down a steep boat launch. it scraps on the bottom of the reciever. used to pull it with a 1500 chevy and no problems with it because the hitch sat much higher off the ground. I asking if anyone has used the Airlift bags or any other brand and how it works. her in MI some of the boat launches are pretty steep to make it easier to launch deep V boats.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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Receiver is too low

I have a 1995 E150 with 100k+ miles and I tow a 23' 6000 lb boat on a big tandem axle trailer. My receiver does not drag and I use some very steep ramps. His boat is small enough that it should barely be noticed in terms of the van's body height.

It sounds to me like the receiver is mounted too low. However, you really don't want it to be high... the lower the toungue, the less sway you get at highway speed. And you really don't want to use air shocks to compensate. They're too mushy and don't give good anti-sway stability. I think I'd first look at the receiver mounting geometry and find a way to improve it. If that is not an option, then a taller or stiffer rear spring arrangement is probably the solution... but not too much!

Keep an eye out at parking lots (particularly at boat ramps) to see if you can see what hitches on other Ford vans look like. Maybe there' something peculiar about yours that is causing the problem. A tape measure might be handy as well.

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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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by the way

By the way, I went out and measured my hitch... it sits 13 1/4" from the ground to the center of the receiver tube. The hitch I use for the boat comes straight out from there.

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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 06:40 AM
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By the way, I went out and measured my hitch... it sits 13 1/4" from the ground to the center of the receiver tube. The hitch I use for the boat comes straight out from there.

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Curt, thank you for the info. I am going to check to see how high this on sits. It is not that the rear end of the van sits too low, some of the lauches are prettty aggresive. the airbags would only be used to temp. lift the rear end to launch the boat. do not want to effect the stock ride.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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is this an extended van? if so, that could explain why it drags more than others. a conversion van is heavier than stock, too...
 
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Crash687
looking for answers for a friend with a 2003 E-150 5.4 with limited slip is a conversion van. he tows his boat with it and sometimes rubbs the hitch on the ground when lauching the boat(17' Four Winns outboard). Has anyone put a set of helper airbags to temp. lift the rear end. or use them to level the rear end when pulling a travel trailer?

thinking of using a set of Airlift bags.
Crash, I put a set of #5000 bags on my 2000 E350 Extended super Duty. I went with the cheaper set up, manually add air rather than built in compressor and can do it from the dashboard. I used to tow 30' Weekend Warrior toy hauler and the hitch on the trailer was really low and the air bags would really help out in leveling out the van. I was gonna add the sway-bars, but really didn't need them. The trailer was pretty stable going down the road. I've sold the trailer and now am hauling my race bikes out of the van alone. Sometimes I'll borrow a buddy's low hauler 7X12 trailer and won't have to put any air into the bags. I trhink i got the bags from "Reliable" for around $220. Hope this helps!
 
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Crash687
looking for answers for a friend with a 2003 E-150 5.4 with limited slip is a conversion van. he tows his boat with it and sometimes rubbs the hitch on the ground when lauching the boat(17' Four Winns outboard). Has anyone put a set of helper airbags to temp. lift the rear end. or use them to level the rear end when pulling a travel trailer?

thinking of using a set of Airlift bags.
A passenger van has a lower hitch height than a pick-up, especially if the pick-up is four wheel drive. The E-150 isn't available in extended length so that isn't your problem. You have 2 options; airbags, which as others here have said, will raise your body/frame and therefore your hitch and give you the clearance you need for steep ramps. You will have to add an on-board air compressor if you want to be able to adjust your ride height at the ramp though. Even though you are only towing a small-ish boat, that doesn't mean the tongue weight isn't excessive. Trailers have adjustable axle's, tongue weight should be 10-15% of the total weight of the trailer, no more, no less. The last option you have is to add some skids, or some heavy duty casters to your hitch, much like RV's use. The only drawback is you may high center yourself in an extreme angled ramp. I don't remember if your van is a conversion van, or a factory stock model, but the conversion adds ALOT of weight, which you do have to subtract from your towing weight. Good luck, Ken
 
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