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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 12:56 AM
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i know this id not fe related but no one in the fuel forum can help with my 428 carb problems.my 600 cfm holley 4bbl stumbles the engine shakes when giving it gas and there is no power to the engine i tried to set the timing at 12 btdc and it ran fuff so i advanced it more till it was smoothe what is causing this and it does not like to accelerate fast either
 
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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Have you recently rebuilt the carb? was it running fine previously? What have you changed to it lately. If it just started acting up, perhaps it has a little garbage in the meter holes. Why do you say it is a 428 carb? What model Holley is it?

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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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I'd say take the carburetor apart and rebuild it. Sounds to me like something is stuck in the main metering circuit. While you're at it get a new fuel filter.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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the carb is new i meant it was on my 428 and the fuel filter is new it is a holley 600 cfm vac secondaries
 
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Carb is new, was the motor running fine prior to the install of the carb? Just trying to get the complete picture of what we are working with...


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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Well if its new, it sounds to me like it needs bigger jets. I'd try number 68's to begin with.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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the spark plugs are a tan color it ran fine with the motorcraft 2bbl with # 57 jets it has number 66 holley jets in it right now
 
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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And it started doing this when you put the new carb on?

Did you check the float levels?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 03:28 AM
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yeah i i checked them they are perfect is it the power valve or maybe the wrong jets or the timing
 
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Aint the jets, main jets only control fuel metering at or near WOT. At part throttle the fuel metering is contolled by air bleeds and engine vacuum. Try closing both idle needle screws. If it runs better that usually means blown power valve. Check to make sure the accelerator pump is working properly. Also check for a vacuum leak. If the timing is too far advanced it will cause you popping and stumbling problem. You need to solve the idle problem so timing can be set properly.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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i set the timing at 15 btdc is this too much it seems to run the best around there and closing the srews makes the engine stumble and die
 
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Have you checked to see what your total timing advance is? Best to keep it below 36 for a premium gas motor and 30 for a regular gas one. Did the motor run better with the screws part way in? Where are the idle screws set? Did you check for a vacuum leak? How did you set the float levels? If nothing else make an adapter or buy one and reinstall the 2V and is if it still runs. I assume(that's proved way to often to make an "*** of you and me") you changed the intake manifold, the problem might not be the carb, could be something to do with the manifold, that's why trying the old carb is a good idea.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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i got it to run a lt better otday it idles smooth idles about 400 and it seemed to have a good response but knocked on 87 octane a little
 
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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Knocking is caused by one of two things, too much compression(expensive fix) and not enough gas octane or to much timing, either mechanical and/or vacuum)(cheap fix) and not enough gas octane. What is your compression ratio and what is your total timing advance. Rattling will destroy an engine very fast, so you need to cure it quickly. High octane cost way to much for anything but race motors anymore.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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[QUOTE=it ran fine with the motorcraft 2bbl with # 57 jets [/QUOTE]

Do I read there was a manifold change?
 
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