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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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Question shell v-power?

has anyone put the shell v-power in their truck yet? did it work well, i currently use shell unleaded 87 octane....
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Of course it will work well. It's 93 octane gasoline and our trucks run on gasoline. The real question should be "Is Shell premium any better than any other brand premium?" and for all practical purposes the answer would be "no". It's just gasoline, it isn't magic.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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From what I understand, it depends some on the altitude of where you are. I live in Colorado and due to the higher altitude, it does not help any to use higher octane or PREMIUM fuel. At least it doesn't do anything for the performance. I quit buying premium fuel and saw no difference.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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Smile hmm..

well i live in mesquite, texas, so you can imagine its not very cold here right now, pretty much in the higher 60's lower 70's....
 

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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With prolonged use, it can help since you are at a lower altitude. But dont expect seat of your pants performance gains. You will get some improvement but nothing real good.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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what kind of improvement should i expect???
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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Of course it will work well. It's 93 octane gasoline and our trucks run on gasoline. The real question should be "Is Shell premium any better than any other brand premium?" and for all practical purposes the answer would be "no". It's just gasoline, it isn't magic.
It all comes from the same Arab oil doesn't it??

My Ford tech nephew told me just to use 87 in the 4.6 - 89 with 10% alky is good also. Just don't put in 92 or above - he told me he had someone come in with a chronic overheating problem - not the boiling over and steaming kind just the temp needle was higher the it used to be and the owner was quite ummmm particular (read: ****) about it - after going thru the entire cooling system he asked what kind of fuel - Amoco 93 Ultimate, supposedly because it had more power when pulling trailers - told the owner to go back to no more than 89 with 10% alky - overheating problem went away.
 

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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You may see a couple of extra miles per gallon...and as for performance...you would prolly need a dyno to measure it. MAYBE a couple of horses.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tscryba
what kind of improvement should i expect???
Improvement over what? In order to measure an 'improvement', one must establish a baseline. Since there is no baseline here, this question cannot be accurately answered as asked. The only 'answers' here are purely conjecture with no real meaning. You will NOT automatically get better mileage or better performance unless you are feeding a vehicle specifically designed and tuned to run on premium fuel. If your vehicle has 'SHO' on the nameplate then you probably need premium.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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the baseline is that my truck is stock with around 14000 miles on it, its an 4.6L V8, 2003 SF-150 Screw, so i am just seeing if the v-power will help the engine run smoother, i know i should not expect much better gas milage with it, i mean its a truck its gonna get low miles, heh, im just wondering if the gas will help anything run better, its completely bone-stock...

its a shame there are no more amoco's around me (mesquite, texas) they had one that i used to go to, but the owner switched to shell, still same station and pump i always go to its just a shell station with shell gas now...
 
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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if i were you then i would run the regular 87. that is what i do i just dont see paying the extra .20 cent a gallon for 93, and your truck is stock, it calls for 87. save your money and buy some performance mods
 
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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VPower facts

Vpower, only available in premium gas, 5-6 times more additive in the fuel than the minimum required by law for additives. I use it in my harley. Use 87octane in my 97F150 4.6 4x4, starting to notice some knocking, may move up to 89octane. I dont buy less expensive/bargain gas because I believe in job security.
Shell guy
PS - Marketing guys just spoke at a company mtg yesterday about the vpower thing. Using the Shell MC you get 10cents off a gallon of Shell gas at 2.00gallon price (5% discount). It helps.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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I see that Shell finally qualified for TOP TIER last week.
http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?...gasolines.html

Congrats on that and welcome to the club!
(We were the first and we qualified in June.)
http://www.chevrontexaco.com/news/pr...2004-06-17.asp


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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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Hey, Texaco gave me the job, Shell bought the plant.
PSR/PSP/PSRC/Texaco/Equilon/Shell/??whats next!!
Don
 
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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Lightbulb octane

Run the lowest octane possible. Alot of people don't seem to understand what octang raitings are for, They think the higher the better (these are the same people that put 1000CFM carbs on small blocks), they figure that higher number means the fuel is more powerfull and fast cars use that fuel so that means anything I put this fuel in is going to make my car/truck faster. Octane is actually a measure of how quickly the fuel burns. The higher the number the SLOWER the fuel burns. Think about it, when you have an engine making 10.5:1 compression, and you start using standard 87 or 89 octane and the engine starts knocking/pinging because of preignition its all because that fuel your using is burning too fast because the higher compression squeezes that charge tighter and makes it hotter so it burns quicker than the piston can start to travel downward where as if you use 93+ octane fuel the fuel/air mix in that engine burns slower and allows that piston enough time to get into its downward stroke. Now think about it, you start using 93 octane in a engine with standard compression, 8.5 maybe 9-9.5:1 at the most, that fuel charge burning in the engine may actually be burning to slow for the engine to fully take advantage of that charge of fuel igniting , it may end up just becoming extra heat and deposits. As for older engines bennifiting from higher octane fuels to keep them from knocking, its very simple, because of the mileage on these engines theres going to be a good amount of carbon deposits on the cylinger heads, piston tops, valve faces, etc. Basically that extra stuff in the cylinder is raising the compression ratio because its making the piston to head distance tighter, so its producing more squeeze and may be causing standard grade fuels to preignite like A high compression engine would. I one time ran 93 octane sunoco in my truck because the other octanes at the gas station that i went to wasn't available and my company was paying for it because I was going on a roadtrip for them, and I really needed gas. I saw absolutely no improvement in how the truck ran, and my fuel mileage. Any diffrence you may see is most likely a placebo effect. Just like how loud cars seem faster, or driving at night feels faster. You want to see a effect so you do. One thing my one of my Teachers always told us in school, engines always run there best on the edge of destruction, you want to run the engine as close to knock as possible with out it getting into knock. As far as what makes the octanes higher it comes down to how much Alcohol they add. Alcohol burns slower than gasoline (hence why there are alcohol funny cars with super high compression). Well anyway hopes this gives everyone a better understanding.
 
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