Front end clunk
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Front end clunk
'04 F250 4x4 psd born on 4/4/04. Truck is at the dealers
For some paint issues etc etc.. Front end makes clunk noise when shifting from P to D or R to D. Suprise! they cant figuer it out. Sent them info I recieved from Realmenpowerstroke but I have this feeling they are still going to be eatn lunch scratching they're heads and still not solve this prob. Any Ideas? Oh, and sometimes it can take up to 20' before I hear the noise and feel it if its loud enough. This is my second post and damn this is a wealth of info. 
Thanks all
Mike
For some paint issues etc etc.. Front end makes clunk noise when shifting from P to D or R to D. Suprise! they cant figuer it out. Sent them info I recieved from Realmenpowerstroke but I have this feeling they are still going to be eatn lunch scratching they're heads and still not solve this prob. Any Ideas? Oh, and sometimes it can take up to 20' before I hear the noise and feel it if its loud enough. This is my second post and damn this is a wealth of info. Thanks all
Mike
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There is a big clunk that happens on my truck that people have commented on, but that's the AC coming on and a vent or something changing.
Your's is probably something different altogether, but thought I'd throw that out there.
Your's is probably something different altogether, but thought I'd throw that out there.
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Here is a Ford service bulletin:
Clunk or Pop from TorqShift at 2-3 MPH:
A clunk or pop may be heard or felt on drive away after starting the engine, backing up and shifting to drive, usually around 2-3 MPH. This condition may be intermittent. It is the result of normal backlash (movement) between the splines on the low/reverse one-way clutch. Broadcast Message 1335
Clunk or Pop from TorqShift at 2-3 MPH:
A clunk or pop may be heard or felt on drive away after starting the engine, backing up and shifting to drive, usually around 2-3 MPH. This condition may be intermittent. It is the result of normal backlash (movement) between the splines on the low/reverse one-way clutch. Broadcast Message 1335
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Thank you SBV45. I think you just solved the mysterious clunk that I have been experiencing with my '04 F250. I was beginning to think that something was loose in the drivetrain, but now it appears that it is normal. Thanks again.
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I have had the same sound too. When I first started to research the problem here, all I found was stuff on the Blend Door. That is not the problem in my truck. It is much louder and much more mechanical. Sometimes I can hear it AND feel it when the window is open (in other words, I can hear if over the sweet racket of the PSD).
So Ford sez it is normal. OK but my buddy with an 03 Chebby Duraweak 2500 has no driveline noises at all. OK so his truck is basically a Trailblazer on bad steriods, so I guess there is no comparison.
It has never seemed to get worse so I suppose that I will let it slide for now. I am going back to the dealer for "Exhaust in the Cab" when I get finished with big project at work that is taking all my time. I will mention it to them then. Maybe show them the Broadcast message that SBV45 posted.
Thanks,
Big
So Ford sez it is normal. OK but my buddy with an 03 Chebby Duraweak 2500 has no driveline noises at all. OK so his truck is basically a Trailblazer on bad steriods, so I guess there is no comparison.
It has never seemed to get worse so I suppose that I will let it slide for now. I am going back to the dealer for "Exhaust in the Cab" when I get finished with big project at work that is taking all my time. I will mention it to them then. Maybe show them the Broadcast message that SBV45 posted.
Thanks,
Big
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Go here for bulletins:
http://www.intellidog.com/dieselmann/60bulletin.htm
Do a search for exhaust. There is a bulletin for that too, I think.
http://www.intellidog.com/dieselmann/60bulletin.htm
Do a search for exhaust. There is a bulletin for that too, I think.
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I tell you what, if it wasn't for memebrs like SBV helping the way they do. Ford wouldn't be able to fix much. It is pretty sad that people have to do the research for the mechanic/service people, so they can fix your vehicle right.
This is relaly startting to bother me with Ford, and i am sure other manuf. do it to. But look at all the post on this forum regarding issue's, and look at how many times Ford's mechanics are stumped. I to work in a field where i have to diagnose problems, and resolve them. I don't know where the ball is being dropped at. If its on Ford door step, or the dealership's for not getting the proper training for there diesel tech's. Quality service just seems like it is a thing of the past...
Just my opinion...
PSDboy
This is relaly startting to bother me with Ford, and i am sure other manuf. do it to. But look at all the post on this forum regarding issue's, and look at how many times Ford's mechanics are stumped. I to work in a field where i have to diagnose problems, and resolve them. I don't know where the ball is being dropped at. If its on Ford door step, or the dealership's for not getting the proper training for there diesel tech's. Quality service just seems like it is a thing of the past...
Just my opinion...
PSDboy
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Mine also has the same noise, also it will make a cracking noise sometimes when starting out and with wheels turned pretty sharp, either way. Garage said it from the driveshaft, a slip yoke I believe, part on order.
03/ built4/28, drw 4x4
03/ built4/28, drw 4x4
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My F250 (born 4/04) does it. I haven't tried this yet, but this supposedly fixes it:
http://www.eurekaboy.com/f250/slipjoint.htm
http://www.eurekaboy.com/f250/slipjoint.htm
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Here is another bulletin on steering and turns:
2004 F-Series/Excursion Steering Grunt/Moan:
If a steering system exhibits a grunt or moan that sounds like it is coming from the steering gear or column, especially on left turns, do not attempt to repair the condition as engineering is investigating the concern. Broadcast Message 1461
I find the problem is with service advisors trying to act knowledgeable when they aren't. They give the dealer and Ford a bad name. I have had service advisors tell me all kinds of bs. I find it valuable to be informed. I bought service manuals and research on the Internet. But be sure of the sources if it comes off the Internet. Things tend to get blown out of proportion.
2004 F-Series/Excursion Steering Grunt/Moan:
If a steering system exhibits a grunt or moan that sounds like it is coming from the steering gear or column, especially on left turns, do not attempt to repair the condition as engineering is investigating the concern. Broadcast Message 1461
I find the problem is with service advisors trying to act knowledgeable when they aren't. They give the dealer and Ford a bad name. I have had service advisors tell me all kinds of bs. I find it valuable to be informed. I bought service manuals and research on the Internet. But be sure of the sources if it comes off the Internet. Things tend to get blown out of proportion.
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Just got my truck back from the dealer
. I have to say that I'm pretty impressed by the service. Had some paint drips on the lower part of a couple doors and some chips on the hood. The drips were warranty probs but the hood was not. they ended up respraying the entire hood as well as the drips. Now down to the mech probs...For my power fluctuations the replaced my EBP sensor and reflashed the PCM to 4U7A-12A650-EHB. Only time will tell if that solved the problem as it was an intermitten problem. Front end cluck goes as fallows: " EPC SOL inoperational 7g383. NVH diag. found cluck was from trans or transfercase area. Trans tester hook-up no DTC, Pin point tested pressure test reading erratic. Removed pan for inspection, For ssm 18209 no sign of planitary failure at this time. Removed v/body to check for sticking valves. ok. replaced EPC sol. preformed adaptive strategy, retested EEC no dtc" If anyone can translate that into plain English I would appreciate it. Hope this helps some of you that get the favorite "Oh thats normal" response from your dealer.
PSDboy I agree that having to research for techs
is pretty sad, but if it insures a correct diag. and repair I'll keep doing it until they can get it right.
Mike
04-04 build date. f-250 psd 4x4 Lariat
. I have to say that I'm pretty impressed by the service. Had some paint drips on the lower part of a couple doors and some chips on the hood. The drips were warranty probs but the hood was not. they ended up respraying the entire hood as well as the drips. Now down to the mech probs...For my power fluctuations the replaced my EBP sensor and reflashed the PCM to 4U7A-12A650-EHB. Only time will tell if that solved the problem as it was an intermitten problem. Front end cluck goes as fallows: " EPC SOL inoperational 7g383. NVH diag. found cluck was from trans or transfercase area. Trans tester hook-up no DTC, Pin point tested pressure test reading erratic. Removed pan for inspection, For ssm 18209 no sign of planitary failure at this time. Removed v/body to check for sticking valves. ok. replaced EPC sol. preformed adaptive strategy, retested EEC no dtc" If anyone can translate that into plain English I would appreciate it. Hope this helps some of you that get the favorite "Oh thats normal" response from your dealer.PSDboy I agree that having to research for techs
is pretty sad, but if it insures a correct diag. and repair I'll keep doing it until they can get it right.Mike
04-04 build date. f-250 psd 4x4 Lariat
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Originally Posted by jonsn4sno
Just got my truck back from the dealer . I have to say that I'm pretty impressed by the service. Had some paint drips on the lower part of a couple doors and some chips on the hood. The drips were warranty probs but the hood was not. they ended up respraying the entire hood as well as the drips. Now down to the mech probs...For my power fluctuations the replaced my EBP sensor and reflashed the PCM to 4U7A-12A650-EHB. Only time will tell if that solved the problem as it was an intermitten problem. Front end cluck goes as fallows: " EPC SOL inoperational 7g383. NVH diag. found cluck was from trans or transfercase area. Trans tester hook-up no DTC, Pin point tested pressure test reading erratic. Removed pan for inspection, For ssm 18209 no sign of planitary failure at this time. Removed v/body to check for sticking valves. ok. replaced EPC sol. preformed adaptive strategy, retested EEC no dtc" If anyone can translate that into plain English I would appreciate it. Hope this helps some of you that get the favorite "Oh thats normal" response from your dealer.
PSDboy I agree that having to research for techs is pretty sad, but if it insures a correct diag. and repair I'll keep doing it until they can get it right.
Mike
04-04 build date. f-250 psd 4x4 Lariat
. I have to say that I'm pretty impressed by the service. Had some paint drips on the lower part of a couple doors and some chips on the hood. The drips were warranty probs but the hood was not. they ended up respraying the entire hood as well as the drips. Now down to the mech probs...For my power fluctuations the replaced my EBP sensor and reflashed the PCM to 4U7A-12A650-EHB. Only time will tell if that solved the problem as it was an intermitten problem. Front end cluck goes as fallows: " EPC SOL inoperational 7g383. NVH diag. found cluck was from trans or transfercase area. Trans tester hook-up no DTC, Pin point tested pressure test reading erratic. Removed pan for inspection, For ssm 18209 no sign of planitary failure at this time. Removed v/body to check for sticking valves. ok. replaced EPC sol. preformed adaptive strategy, retested EEC no dtc" If anyone can translate that into plain English I would appreciate it. Hope this helps some of you that get the favorite "Oh thats normal" response from your dealer.PSDboy I agree that having to research for techs
is pretty sad, but if it insures a correct diag. and repair I'll keep doing it until they can get it right.Mike
04-04 build date. f-250 psd 4x4 Lariat
They replaced the 'exhaust back pressure' sensor and reprogrammed the trucks computer with the latest calibration for driveabilty/running concerns..
Also ID'ed the front end noise as coming from the trans area using the 'NVH' (noise/vibration/harshness) diagnostic.. Also tested/scanned for dianostic trouble codes (DTC's) with none found.. The pinpoint test involves using a volt/ohm meter ect. and is used to test circuit resistance/voltages and they felt that the EPC (electronic pressure control solenoid) for line pressure in the trans was out of spec. or non functional.. They also pulled the trans pan/valve body for an 'exploratory' look see, for a stuck/sticking valve, and/or for signs of 'abnormal' metal/s and wear or componant failure.. Preformed adaptive strategy to complete the repair, check for shift engagement/intervules, with a final check for trouble codes..
....................HP....................
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jonsn4sno:
no sign of planitary failure at this time.
Comments like this always make me nervous. When a statement ends with "not at this time"... or similar...IMO, it implies that the issue is anticipated at some point in time.
If you know what I mean.
no sign of planitary failure at this time.
Comments like this always make me nervous. When a statement ends with "not at this time"... or similar...IMO, it implies that the issue is anticipated at some point in time.
If you know what I mean.