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Sorry to burst your bubble momudder, but reverse cut gears still turn the same direction as regular cut- they are cut differently for strength reasons. Another idea would be to use a gear box from an old combine drive. There are old combines scattered all over the midwest, and for the final drive they have a gearbox similar to ones on Unimogs. If a person was to use one of these as a transfer case, it would reverse the rotation and give a hellish gear ratio- I think they are about 5 or 6 to 1 ratio. As usual there are problems with this idea too- you would only have a one speed transfer case and an even bigger problem- there is only one output on these boxes, but a person could concievably have a machine shop put a bore with splines in the driven gear and machine a spot in the case for an opposite output. By the time you do this, you might be better off to just try to get one of those monster truck type units.
Sorry to burst your bubble momudder, but reverse cut gears still turn the same direction as regular cut- they are cut differently for strength reasons. Another idea would be to use a gear box from an old combine drive. There are old combines scattered all over the midwest, and for the final drive they have a gearbox similar to ones on Unimogs. If a person was to use one of these as a transfer case, it would reverse the rotation and give a hellish gear ratio- I think they are about 5 or 6 to 1 ratio. As usual there are problems with this idea too- you would only have a one speed transfer case and an even bigger problem- there is only one output on these boxes, but a person could concievably have a machine shop put a bore with splines in the driven gear and machine a spot in the case for an opposite output. By the time you do this, you might be better off to just try to get one of those monster truck type units.
Just put one of these before your transfer case. It is just like a low range unit that reverses rotation.
One problem with this wyldstallyn, those hubs weight about 500lbs, and they won't take the abuse of a big block spining 5grand. Also the internals are cast iron so no internal welding can be done (there's more to it than that but you can't do any internal welding on these things), Then the cost, you will end up paying at least 800 bucks for one of these no matter what, even if its from the back 40 at some wrecking yard, so one would be better off getting a new one thats meant to do this type of thing, great idea though, just to much abuse and its way to heavy (one wet out on our combine a few year ago, we had to use a front end loader on a tractor to load the thing up and put the new one back on)
I'm wondering if you could change out a planetary in the the tranny to acheive this. It's only one more gear set . . . or maybe if you add an extra planetary gear?
you could build a box with a reversing planetary gear set in it, but that's a fab job and would really need a very good machine shop to build it, but would have the advantage of the ability to give a further gear reduction. all you have to do is drive the sun gear hold the planet gears, and the ring would then be your driven in a reverse direction.
The combine boxes I have seen dont appear to be 500 pounds, but if they are worth $800 then I know where there are crapload of them!!!!!. anyway, If you say they wont take the abuse then I will take your word for it.
Yeah those boxes are pretty much solid cast and thus the weight. I think what monsterbaby said would be the best, and probably the cheapest way as well.
Last edited by mustange70; Nov 7, 2004 at 05:09 PM.
and revers cut gear go in differnet direction, because my 1981 f-250 4x4 if you spin the back drive shaft, the front one spins the same way, so it has to spin the other way, other wise one would go fowards, and the other would go back wards...
besdies...if you were to do this, you wouldn't wanna go much about 30 miles an hour any way, at least i wouldn't, so just put it in " R " for racing, and then have one hell of a set of back up gears !!
tweaker, your wealth of ignorance astounds me!!! Next time before you open your pie-hole to dole out ill concieved corrections, try to do a bit more research!!! First of all, put aside the bong and really try to wrap your mind around the concept of how a ring and pinion turns in relation to which way the axle is facing. Don't be ashamed to help yourself out by diagraming it out on a piece of paper-you can even pick any color crayon you want-!!JOY!! If this pursuit is futile for you, lets think about it this way- If, as you claim, a reverse cut axle turns the opposite way of a regular cut axle, then the front output yoke on a reverse cut axle equipped truck would also turn the opposite direction of the front output yoke on a regular cut axle equipped truck. Are you still with me,,,,,,Now if this were true, then it would mean that transfer cases would have to be matched accordingly to the proper front axle. With all of the thousands of axle swaps, drivetrain swaps, and transfer case swaps that have been performed over the decades, don't you think that people would have run into a problem with this????? To prove it to yourself, go ahead and order an Atlas T-case and see if the person that takes your order gives a rat's anus whether you have a reverse cut axle or standard cut. They wont-because they turn the same fricking direction!!!!!!!! THANK YOU, NEXT QUESTION PLEASE!!!!!!!!!