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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Fuel Pump -something left behind

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<HR style="COLOR: #666666" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->I do not claim to have any mechanical skills, but know when something sounds fishy. Two days ago my fuel pump went out on my '87 F250 Diesel. I was out of town and had it towed to a local mechanic. Today they call to tell me when they pulled the pump, some rod fell into my oil pan...is this possible? I guess it must be - if someone can explain how this happens, that would be great. Bigger problem: They say they can't get the rod out without pulling my pan, which means lifting my engine...their suggestion: leave the rod in the pan. My question: Is this dangerous? Should I do this?
 
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Im guessing that the (rod) in question is the actuator arm fell off the fuel pump into the pan when they pulled it from the block,or it was already broke off,which is why it quit.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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They did claim this "rod" was already broken. Do you think such a rod is harmful if left in the pan? I have no idea the size or weight of this piece.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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If it was me ?It would have to come out.Can a magnet be used?Maybe the oil would need to be drained for that to work.If it cant be "fished" out then the pan must be dropped to get at it.I know you need to lift the engine to (remove)the pan,but they just need to drop it.Hope this helps.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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Good point - I may pursue this myself. If I were able to open the pan and fish it out, how do I get a seal on the pan if I can't get a new gasket on...assuming it requires a gasket?
 
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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The oil pan uses rtv sealant instead of a gasket,you just need to clean off the surfaces and apply new rtv sealant.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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you would be much safer getting the rod out. I am sure it is the rod from the lift pump. If you know of someone who changed a fuel pump on a gas engine, ask to see the old pump and you will see what the rod is. There is not a lot of room in the oil pan for objects to be moving around. You would still have to lift the engine to get the pan to open up and remove the rod, but you shouldnt have to remove the pan from the chassis. A good cleaning and you should be able to apply the rtv goop as pnose stated. Good luck and keep us posted.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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my grandpa ran a 84' 6.9 with the pump lever in the bottom of the pan for about 150,000 miles before the crank broke in two when we were muddin one day. (yes, me and my granda went muddin) but i dont think it will hurt anything, i remember soemtimes when you change the oil, you would have to stick your little finger in there and move it out of the way so the oil would flow faster, it wasn't the lever that caused the motor to blow up because ti was still laying there, in the bottom when we took the motor apart. wasn't mangled at all, so i think you will be okay.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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I'd say If I didn't need to do something major to the engine, I'd leave it there. there is plenty of room in there for the oil pick-up to suck the oil and the lever can't restrict that. the lever is not going up into the engine unless you turn the truck upside-down.
If the time comes that the engine needs repair take it out then.
best of luck Phil
 
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