kerosene?
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From: stoneboro, pa
Originally Posted by RJB1
ATF or RISOLONE used to be standard additions to older motors to keep things clean. But it's not recommended on these new ones, something about tolerances?
u guys ever stop and think what diesel is??? its almost the same as atf. thinner and not red. thats it. thats why they call em "oil burners".
diesel, kero, home heating oil, jet fuel, etc. all the same just different grades. and diesel is NOT the top of the chart...... winter fuel needs cetane and lubricity, and thats what ATF is. u guys are really showin ur "city slickerness"
BTW, todays fuel is the WORST thing u can put in ur diesel tank besides water and gasoline. vegetable oil is better, and crude oil is the best.
anyone ever run a tank of crude in their tractor or truck??? amazing the difference isnt it?? like puttin a chip on it
because all the good stuff is stripped out in the diesel...... cant believe some of u guys havent heard of it??? all tractor pullers dump atf and crude(cheatin)
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Originally Posted by twoballsleft
A buddy of mine ran a couple of tanks of fuel oil and was adding some kero to his diesel...completly destroyed the top end of his cummins...2000 Dodge...was in the shop for a month...they almost denied the warenty...
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Originally Posted by bighoss550
thats why u put the ATF in....... his dumb fault for doin it and not knowin the way to do it right....
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Originally Posted by ntobias1
Well how do you do it right...how much and when...I have heard that some of the additives for diesel fuel are just basically ATF
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The way diesel prices are going it's gonna be cheaper to use ATF...maybe I'll visit the Xmission shop and see if they will save all thier old fluid for me...it's like living in a Mad Max movie...pretty soon we'll all be burning everything we can...
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are you all serious about putting AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID in your fuel tanks for your 6.0? 1 quart for every 10 gallons? isnt diesel still cheaper than trans fluid/?
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Originally Posted by MotoraceD
are you all serious about putting AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID in your fuel tanks for your 6.0? 1 quart for every 10 gallons? isnt diesel still cheaper than trans fluid/?
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This thread seriously scares me. I mean really.
ATF in the diesel tank? It's like internet spam hoaxes that keep rearing their head. An old old old old old mechanic's wives tale from days long past. ATF will add little to nothing of value to a modern diesel engine fueling system. ATF is designed to keep deposits from forming, not to remove them. It's not necessary or really beneficial to add ATF...wasting your money. Add some Tide or Sunlight to the tank if you want to clean things up. Wait, don't...I'm not serious.
Yes, diesel that has been cracked in refiners using modern (current) methods has lost some of it's lubricity.
But...think about it. Do you REALLY believe that all these refineries and producers have been selling diesel fuel that is going to kill your motor because of a lack of lubricating properties (eg Sulfur)?
No.
The answer is that they have (and do) put other additives into the final mix to COMPENSATE for the low sulfur. If they didn't, they'd have a multi trillion dollar lawsuit because every diesel in the world would just pack it in.
Bottom line. If you are worried about keeping your fuel system running top notch, then use good fuel from a high turnover station, change your filters regularly, and use a reputable fuel additive if you feel it's necessary (like Stanadyne or Power Service).
You've got a $50,000 truck. Take care of it.
ATF in the diesel tank? It's like internet spam hoaxes that keep rearing their head. An old old old old old mechanic's wives tale from days long past. ATF will add little to nothing of value to a modern diesel engine fueling system. ATF is designed to keep deposits from forming, not to remove them. It's not necessary or really beneficial to add ATF...wasting your money. Add some Tide or Sunlight to the tank if you want to clean things up. Wait, don't...I'm not serious.
Yes, diesel that has been cracked in refiners using modern (current) methods has lost some of it's lubricity.
But...think about it. Do you REALLY believe that all these refineries and producers have been selling diesel fuel that is going to kill your motor because of a lack of lubricating properties (eg Sulfur)?
No.
The answer is that they have (and do) put other additives into the final mix to COMPENSATE for the low sulfur. If they didn't, they'd have a multi trillion dollar lawsuit because every diesel in the world would just pack it in.
Bottom line. If you are worried about keeping your fuel system running top notch, then use good fuel from a high turnover station, change your filters regularly, and use a reputable fuel additive if you feel it's necessary (like Stanadyne or Power Service).
You've got a $50,000 truck. Take care of it.
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From: Denton,TX
Originally Posted by ntobias1
Well how do you do it right...how much and when...I have heard that some of the additives for diesel fuel are just basically ATF
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Originally Posted by vontrapp
This thread seriously scares me. I mean really.
ATF in the diesel tank? It's like internet spam hoaxes that keep rearing their head. An old old old old old mechanic's wives tale from days long past. ATF will add little to nothing of value to a modern diesel engine fueling system. ATF is designed to keep deposits from forming, not to remove them. It's not necessary or really beneficial to add ATF...wasting your money. Add some Tide or Sunlight to the tank if you want to clean things up. Wait, don't...I'm not serious.
Yes, diesel that has been cracked in refiners using modern (current) methods has lost some of it's lubricity.
But...think about it. Do you REALLY believe that all these refineries and producers have been selling diesel fuel that is going to kill your motor because of a lack of lubricating properties (eg Sulfur)?
No.
The answer is that they have (and do) put other additives into the final mix to COMPENSATE for the low sulfur. If they didn't, they'd have a multi trillion dollar lawsuit because every diesel in the world would just pack it in.
Bottom line. If you are worried about keeping your fuel system running top notch, then use good fuel from a high turnover station, change your filters regularly, and use a reputable fuel additive if you feel it's necessary (like Stanadyne or Power Service).
You've got a $50,000 truck. Take care of it.
ATF in the diesel tank? It's like internet spam hoaxes that keep rearing their head. An old old old old old mechanic's wives tale from days long past. ATF will add little to nothing of value to a modern diesel engine fueling system. ATF is designed to keep deposits from forming, not to remove them. It's not necessary or really beneficial to add ATF...wasting your money. Add some Tide or Sunlight to the tank if you want to clean things up. Wait, don't...I'm not serious.
Yes, diesel that has been cracked in refiners using modern (current) methods has lost some of it's lubricity.
But...think about it. Do you REALLY believe that all these refineries and producers have been selling diesel fuel that is going to kill your motor because of a lack of lubricating properties (eg Sulfur)?
No.
The answer is that they have (and do) put other additives into the final mix to COMPENSATE for the low sulfur. If they didn't, they'd have a multi trillion dollar lawsuit because every diesel in the world would just pack it in.
Bottom line. If you are worried about keeping your fuel system running top notch, then use good fuel from a high turnover station, change your filters regularly, and use a reputable fuel additive if you feel it's necessary (like Stanadyne or Power Service).
You've got a $50,000 truck. Take care of it.
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Isn't that like building a fence in the barnyard to keep the cows from straying too far because you left the door open in the barn?
Kerosene, ATF, Naptha, Alcohol, Gasoline. ALL will run through a diesel motor. The damage they can do, the mix ratios and how long until the motor or fuel pump dies is another matter altogether.
Just to mention...Kerosene IS NOT diesel...very close but not the same. Bunker C IS NOT diesel. Very close again, but not the same as what you buy at the pump. Sure it'll run in motors, but they have fueling systems DESIGNED TO RUN THAT TYPE OF FUEL.
The point is ATF has no place in a modern automotive diesel engine fueling system.
Run a proper diesel additive if you wish, or run winter#2 if it's cold. I run our truck year round in minus 40C (WITHOUT and additive), and I've never had gelling problems.
I realize I won't be able to convince you otherwise...it's your truck and your fuel pump.
But I'm willing to keep an open mind on this...and I'm not trying to flame here.
Show me factual scientific data proving the benefits of running ATF. Not Billy Joe's homepage of diesel tricks, but show me an actual statistically relevant study running ATF mixes in diesel engines.
Last edited by vontrapp; Oct 26, 2004 at 09:14 PM.
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From: Denton,TX
Originally Posted by vontrapp
Just to mention...Kerosene IS NOT diesel...very close but not the same.
