OK, I understand why drivers have to wait to turn right on red when there is a sign posted. But why do so many of them sit there and wait to turn only when the light turns green when there is no restriction sign posted?!?!:-X23 And yes, it is clear and safe for them to turn but they don't. It seems that I get to sit behind an older person that waits to turn on green quite often. By older I would estimate late 40's thru 50's for age. Is there some kind of driving rule that they learned way back then that isn't taught now? Or are they oblivious to the line of people waiting for them to turn right?

 

Id really like to know that too. It's so dman stressful at times, especially when your trying to keep a schedule. That seems to go hand and hand with the people that dont understand the concept of the fast lane. There was actual a law in process down here(specifically made for the Schuykill Expressway) that stated if you were caught driving too slow in the fast lane you would be ticketed. Its the major trunk in and out of Philadelphia, and people cant help but to make it the most problematic, congested road in the area. Sorry, kinda strayed off the topic.

 

A lot of people do not like to turn on red because they cannot see the whole road they are turning into, also some persons from states where turn on red is not allowed do not because they do not know they can. It should also be realized that to turn on red is not compulsory so folk can sit an wait till the green, legally. I know this only because being an Aussie, where it is not permitted, I had to take a driving test when arriving here, and was informed by the examiner of the permitted action, but assured that it was not compulsory.
This being said, when the road is clear and someone just sits there and waits suggests to me that they do not know how to correctly drive around, and should be watched after the turn, in case they decide to turn in front of you, when you try to blow their doors off..

Also, some states do not allow tankers and other hazmat trucks to turn on red, so many truck drivers do not turn on red, because sometimes the only time you know something is illegal for trucks is when the trooper pulls you over, and tells you about it.
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In many states it is illegal to turn right on red, the person may have moved in from out of state and doesn't know.

 

Big trucks are not the problem. I can understand why they would wait.

It's all these regular motorists that sit there.

And I would assume that if my state(OK) was all no turn on red then we wouldn't have intersections with signs that specifically say "No Turn On Red"?

Would honking at these people be "bad road manners"?

 

Having a pretty good idea of the exact intersection where this occurs, I'd have to say it's just because they are idiots. After all, these are the same people that wait until you're 20ft away before they pull out in front of you and drive 25 mph down to that intersection.

Now, if you see ME doing it- then it's because I really can't make the turn in one lane. So, if there is anyone coming, I have to wait until they pass by. Often, the light turns green while waiting so it looks like I'm an idiot (which I am) but at least this occasion has a reason. :P

 

In states that allow turns on red, the signs only appear on those that you aren't allowed to. In states that NEVER allow turns on red, they aren't posted. If you can't turn on red on any of them, why label them? It would be like putting up a sign that said "go on green."

 

>OK, I understand why drivers have to wait to turn right on
>red when there is a sign posted. But why do so many of them
>sit there and wait to turn only when the light turns green
>when there is no restriction sign posted?!?!:-X23 And yes,
>it is clear and safe for them to turn but they don't. It
>seems that I get to sit behind an older person that waits to
>turn on green quite often. By older I would estimate late
>40's thru 50's for age. Is there some kind of driving rule
>that they learned way back then that isn't taught now?
>Or are they oblivious to the line of people waiting for them
>to turn right?




Most people have reasons for the things they do. A senior citizen sitting at an intersection instead of turning right on red probably can't see clearly or perhaps is intimidated by having to turn into oncoming traffic, especially if it is a multi-lane street. Remember, older people don't react as fast, and their eyesight and hearing may not be as good as it once was. They do, however, have a right to be on the road as it is a public highway. Remember, your day is coming! Cut the old people a little slack!

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>It would be like
>putting up a sign that said "go on green."

I can think of times when a sign like that may have helped the confused products of society.

 

>Most people have reasons for the things they do. A senior
>citizen sitting at an intersection instead of turning right
>on red probably can't see clearly or perhaps is intimidated
>by having to turn into oncoming traffic, especially if it is
>a multi-lane street. Remember, older people don't react as
>fast, and their eyesight and hearing may not be as good as
>it once was. They do, however, have a right to be on the
>road as it is a public highway. Remember, your day is
>coming! Cut the old people a little slack!
>
>Superbru
>2002 F150 Super Crew
>5.4 4X4 Lariat


I don't consider a 40 something or 50 something year old as a senior citizen. Most of these people really don't appear to be that old. I've analyzed the situation each time I have to sit there and wait; I see there is plenty of visual clearance, there is plenty of time(sometimes no cars coming at all), and these are the same turns I make every day in a car and/or truck.

If these people don't react as fast and their eyesight and hearing is dwindling that badly, and todays driving conditions are too intimidating then maybe they shouldn't be allowed to drive on public roads. They would be dangers to the general public.(ie In the news a few weeks ago, that older lady that was picking up her grandkids at their school and ended up confusing the brake and gas pedal and ran over almost a dozen kids.)

Ya, I'll be old and gray someday, but hopefully will drive just as well as when I was younger.

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 22-Feb-02 AT 02:13 PM (EST)]Ok...let's not get an angry "age" thread going...
Since we are on the subject of turning right on a on a red (and yes in some states, it is illegal). Maybe someone can answer this question...At some intersections here in California we can have two right turn lanes.:-X23
The question is: Can both lanes turn right on a red into the corresponding lanes? Or is this illegal?
My understanding is that only the "right most" lane can turn.
Edit added: Ok only when safe to do so...

Hope someone can answer this for me...

Thanks

Deb

 

QUOTE (from the movie "STARMAN"):

"I have watched you very carefully. Red means stop. Green means go. Yellow means go VERY FAST..."

My opinion?

"It is often very difficult to distinguish an idiot from a handicapped person. But handicapped people are much safer to drive next to."

 

I'll stick my neck out and say that handicap people are safe to drive next to because theey driivvee slloowwww. Also, when you see the tag, it jogs your mind and you watch them a little closer. Sorta like the Veterans tag in KS. Nothing against vets. NOTHING. Indeed they have my full respect and deserve it. But, when I see the vet tag it usually means someone who is over 60 and usually not in a hurry.

Someday I'll mellow out but it hasn't arrived yet. Until then I try not to upset the handicapped or Vets on the road.

 

I see a lot of this as I am a Signal Electrician for Missouri DOT and spend my workdays in signalized interesections. We haven't always had Right Turn on Red, it came about in the 70's during the energy shortage as a way to save fuel and I suspect that a lot of the more elderly drivers have driven so long before Right Turn on Red was implemented that they just never broke the habit of sitting at a red until it changes.
Just my $.02 worth from watchin' them all day.

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When you're working ,do you have to honour the Wait & Walk signs?

If you did you would only get half a days done,right?



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