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Tuned
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From: Fuquay Varina, NC
It's here!!
Finally, including 2 days transporter downtime in Tennesee due to winch problems, my '66 F100 arrived this morning. It is virtually rust free (a few rust spots where paint was scratched in the bed and engine compartment) with a solid bed, and very clean engine compartment and what I was able to see on quick inspection a clean frame. Very straight body with one very small dent in lower right rear corner near bumper and the paint job (a few years old) is pretty good with a couple of chips and cracks. I'm very pleased.
I got an extra surprise - it's a Custom Cab and Camper Special!! The guy I bought it from only said camper special, and here's the confusing part: the door data tag I had the guy read to me for the Body Type was C81. I told him the VIN Data Plate decoder doesn't have that value and it should be 81A or 81B. He came back with C81A (bummer I thought due to A being standard Cab). Turns out this is an oddly stamped Data plate (and it is a 1966 truck - the Title is for 1966 and the VIN build number is over 859K which correlates with a May 1966 build date). The Body type is just C81 and the Trans value is A and the Axle value is A9. None of those are '66 values in the ~jcpurut website! However, this has the "Custom Cab" emblems in the correct places on both the doors, and has the "Camper Special" F100 emblems (he took the dual camper mirrors off and put a small standard one in its place - he didn't like the looks of them). I'm thrilled.
Also looks like it has a number of other options: rear wheel tool box, chrome front bumper, has factory windshield washers. It may have the 2-speed wiper and I think the heater is deluxe (need to verify). Based on one of the earlier thread on Camper specials this looks like it had the Custom Camper Special package. That would be sweet! The only options I don't see are 2-tone paint and chrome side strips.
OK, it killed me to just pick the truck up from down the road at the Home Depot parking lot, drive it home and then go to work. But, already noticed a few things and beginning to make a list:
- '66 Shop Manual - does this include wiring diagram or do I need to buy that separately?
- Over bumps she rebounds a couple of times - needs better shocks. I use to use KYB on my mustangs. I wonder if Edlebrock IAS has an application for this year truck? Any other performance shock recommendations?
- Missing a driver side arm rest and the door release lever is not functioning (I needed to open the window to open the door). Are these repro'd or must I look for a used one (turquoise)?
- Horn doesn't work and turn signal reset not functioning.
- D@mn I had to stomp on those drum brakes to stop it!! OK, I definitely want disc brakes up front.
- Along with brakes, steering was a bit loose and very difficult making tight slow turns in my driveway. Power steering might be in order -> then the wife will drive it also!
- The purported rebuilt 390 does have an iron 4bbl intake and 4bbl carb (don't know which make yet). No oil leaks. However, the C6 tranny has a minor fluid leak - will need to diagnose source (hopefully just pan gasket).
- I need touch up paint - who's your favorite pre-made factory color spary can source?
Man, can't wait to go through her! Thanks to all for the support so far and for the questions to come. I'll put up some pictures soon in my gallery.
Cheers,
dagger
Slick 66
I got an extra surprise - it's a Custom Cab and Camper Special!! The guy I bought it from only said camper special, and here's the confusing part: the door data tag I had the guy read to me for the Body Type was C81. I told him the VIN Data Plate decoder doesn't have that value and it should be 81A or 81B. He came back with C81A (bummer I thought due to A being standard Cab). Turns out this is an oddly stamped Data plate (and it is a 1966 truck - the Title is for 1966 and the VIN build number is over 859K which correlates with a May 1966 build date). The Body type is just C81 and the Trans value is A and the Axle value is A9. None of those are '66 values in the ~jcpurut website! However, this has the "Custom Cab" emblems in the correct places on both the doors, and has the "Camper Special" F100 emblems (he took the dual camper mirrors off and put a small standard one in its place - he didn't like the looks of them). I'm thrilled.
Also looks like it has a number of other options: rear wheel tool box, chrome front bumper, has factory windshield washers. It may have the 2-speed wiper and I think the heater is deluxe (need to verify). Based on one of the earlier thread on Camper specials this looks like it had the Custom Camper Special package. That would be sweet! The only options I don't see are 2-tone paint and chrome side strips.
OK, it killed me to just pick the truck up from down the road at the Home Depot parking lot, drive it home and then go to work. But, already noticed a few things and beginning to make a list:
- '66 Shop Manual - does this include wiring diagram or do I need to buy that separately?
- Over bumps she rebounds a couple of times - needs better shocks. I use to use KYB on my mustangs. I wonder if Edlebrock IAS has an application for this year truck? Any other performance shock recommendations?
- Missing a driver side arm rest and the door release lever is not functioning (I needed to open the window to open the door). Are these repro'd or must I look for a used one (turquoise)?
- Horn doesn't work and turn signal reset not functioning.
- D@mn I had to stomp on those drum brakes to stop it!! OK, I definitely want disc brakes up front.
- Along with brakes, steering was a bit loose and very difficult making tight slow turns in my driveway. Power steering might be in order -> then the wife will drive it also!
- The purported rebuilt 390 does have an iron 4bbl intake and 4bbl carb (don't know which make yet). No oil leaks. However, the C6 tranny has a minor fluid leak - will need to diagnose source (hopefully just pan gasket).
- I need touch up paint - who's your favorite pre-made factory color spary can source?
Man, can't wait to go through her! Thanks to all for the support so far and for the questions to come. I'll put up some pictures soon in my gallery.
Cheers,
dagger
Slick 66
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Hi David, I'm glad to hear it arrived and is more than you wanted.
As you can see, You don't want to put a forsale sign in the 04 just yet. Start enjoying the truck a little and also start a plan on the improvements and be able to put the sign up next spring.
Maybe I can come down sunday and have a look at er with you.
Shoot me a mail if that might work.
John
As you can see, You don't want to put a forsale sign in the 04 just yet. Start enjoying the truck a little and also start a plan on the improvements and be able to put the sign up next spring.
Maybe I can come down sunday and have a look at er with you.
Shoot me a mail if that might work.
John
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Dagger,
Congrats on waiting & wondering being over!
Sounds like a good deal to me.
I agree with JO, get that recipe going by riding & observing.
The things you did mention aren't huge. The door opening problem can be as simple as actuating rod dropping out, or a bad or missing retainer clip, or it can be a bad actuator for lock/latch or faulty latching mechanism. It could also ne a stripped spline in actator handle or on thelock/ latch adtuator itself.
Turn sig switch has nylon cancel cams which break, but can be replaced, or the switches can be replaced too. Something you can keep in mind and take to the bank is many many of th parts in these mid 60's F Series are the same parts used in Falcon, Fairlane, Comet, Mustang etc. All parts used in those vehicles with a "T" are truck parts, for example parts with numbers like C1TZ 1234 B, or C5TA 5678 A, are Ford F Series but also used in other models.
Another bit of usefull info is right here at FTE, buy typing in service manuals in parts search window to the menu on your right, you will get directed to MotorHaven. when it opens look on your left and in the top list you will see a line about service manuals & CD Roms, click on it & you will go to a list of OEM service manuals on CD available from MotorHaven. I have not bought mine yet. I might get it for Christmas tho. Anyway a good thing about having the OEM manuals copied on CD is they don't get tattered, dog eared, dirty greasy, fingerprinted and wore out like hardcopy manuals do.
I use my OEM Manuals often because it's easier for me to look stuff up than walk around tryin' to remember it all. Point is with the CD ROM version you can just print out a topic you're going tobe dealing with on P/C paper & if it gets destroyed, damaged or lost you're out nothoing but the cost of printing it out. Last manuals I checked out at a carshow & swap meet were $150 and they were used. I think the Motor Haven CD ROM is around $50 & every page you print will always be fresh & new, easy to read & cheap to lose.
FWIW of all the info on my data plate, only thing that's correct, year wise, is serial number itself. That's because I had a new data plate made by Marti out in AZ. It reflects what I installed, not what Henry installed in it. It has a 460 engine #, a C-5 A/T #, and so forth.
Good luck & enjoy it, you're "IN IT" now.
FBp 
Congrats on waiting & wondering being over!
Sounds like a good deal to me.
I agree with JO, get that recipe going by riding & observing.
The things you did mention aren't huge. The door opening problem can be as simple as actuating rod dropping out, or a bad or missing retainer clip, or it can be a bad actuator for lock/latch or faulty latching mechanism. It could also ne a stripped spline in actator handle or on thelock/ latch adtuator itself.
Turn sig switch has nylon cancel cams which break, but can be replaced, or the switches can be replaced too. Something you can keep in mind and take to the bank is many many of th parts in these mid 60's F Series are the same parts used in Falcon, Fairlane, Comet, Mustang etc. All parts used in those vehicles with a "T" are truck parts, for example parts with numbers like C1TZ 1234 B, or C5TA 5678 A, are Ford F Series but also used in other models.
Another bit of usefull info is right here at FTE, buy typing in service manuals in parts search window to the menu on your right, you will get directed to MotorHaven. when it opens look on your left and in the top list you will see a line about service manuals & CD Roms, click on it & you will go to a list of OEM service manuals on CD available from MotorHaven. I have not bought mine yet. I might get it for Christmas tho. Anyway a good thing about having the OEM manuals copied on CD is they don't get tattered, dog eared, dirty greasy, fingerprinted and wore out like hardcopy manuals do.
I use my OEM Manuals often because it's easier for me to look stuff up than walk around tryin' to remember it all. Point is with the CD ROM version you can just print out a topic you're going tobe dealing with on P/C paper & if it gets destroyed, damaged or lost you're out nothoing but the cost of printing it out. Last manuals I checked out at a carshow & swap meet were $150 and they were used. I think the Motor Haven CD ROM is around $50 & every page you print will always be fresh & new, easy to read & cheap to lose.
FWIW of all the info on my data plate, only thing that's correct, year wise, is serial number itself. That's because I had a new data plate made by Marti out in AZ. It reflects what I installed, not what Henry installed in it. It has a 460 engine #, a C-5 A/T #, and so forth.
Good luck & enjoy it, you're "IN IT" now.
FBp
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Thanks zombie, John and Pete. Last night was cleaning out the garage which had become the kids bikes and toys storage bin and yard equipment shed. After stacking and moving alot of stuff around the garage, I just barely got the '66 in - you know I need to keep her protected (heck, I'd rather leave my '04 p/u outside than this one with less fear of vandalism).
I found one of the other sponsors on this site who has the 3-volume paper version of the shop manual for $69. I like the CD idea, but when I was working on the Mustangs I really appreciated having the whole manual in front of me - grease marks and all! But, having the pristine copy on CD basically forever has it's advantages as well (I wonder how good the resolution is on the CD. If it was a poorly scaned image or if it is in .pdf format which is very likely, then the adobe resolution especially on diagrams is usually just fair at best in my experience. I'd like to hear from someone who has one of these CDs and have done printing of pages with diagrams for their feedback.)
Pete, my email is (less spaces and symbol conversions) d 2 gallagher AT earthlink DOT net . Thanks for the Ford part number decoding info.
John - would be great to have you come down. However my Mom is flying in Sunday mid-afternoon so just Sunday morning is open. Next weekend (16-17) we will be busy so the next open weekend is the following Sat/Sun (23/24). I owe Raleighdad a message also - I need to get it titled/registered/inspected plus a good tune up before I drive it much. Oh ya, you were right, not ready to put that 4-sale sign on the '04 just yet (the one area the guy I bought it from which he over-rated is the driveability - he said no problem driving cross country - I wouldn't be comfortable doing that so very glad I had it transported).
Cheers,
Slick 66 dagger
I found one of the other sponsors on this site who has the 3-volume paper version of the shop manual for $69. I like the CD idea, but when I was working on the Mustangs I really appreciated having the whole manual in front of me - grease marks and all! But, having the pristine copy on CD basically forever has it's advantages as well (I wonder how good the resolution is on the CD. If it was a poorly scaned image or if it is in .pdf format which is very likely, then the adobe resolution especially on diagrams is usually just fair at best in my experience. I'd like to hear from someone who has one of these CDs and have done printing of pages with diagrams for their feedback.)
Pete, my email is (less spaces and symbol conversions) d 2 gallagher AT earthlink DOT net . Thanks for the Ford part number decoding info.
John - would be great to have you come down. However my Mom is flying in Sunday mid-afternoon so just Sunday morning is open. Next weekend (16-17) we will be busy so the next open weekend is the following Sat/Sun (23/24). I owe Raleighdad a message also - I need to get it titled/registered/inspected plus a good tune up before I drive it much. Oh ya, you were right, not ready to put that 4-sale sign on the '04 just yet (the one area the guy I bought it from which he over-rated is the driveability - he said no problem driving cross country - I wouldn't be comfortable doing that so very glad I had it transported).
Cheers,
Slick 66 dagger
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Dagger....on the body code, the first digit is the interior color trim code....C is medium green crush vinyl and medium green cody pattern woven plastic
It sounds like you read my post on the C/C and C/S I did a while back...mine is same thing except mine is a 65 and doesnt have dual door pockets which I know to be original.
Im not sure about the side trim delete as this is a big part of the C/C package....tool box and such is as i stated in the post...as i recall is part of the C/S pkg...dont have that book in front of me right now
Sounds like a good rig...as for the steering...its not bad when in tip top shape and rolling as far as turning, for a man that is...a woman....different story most likely. Brakes...they did offer power brakes as an extra cost option but not DB till I think 67 as an option.
when you do upgrades and such, Id be happy to take the discards off your hands if in decent shape.
cant wait to see pics of your F100....cs65
It sounds like you read my post on the C/C and C/S I did a while back...mine is same thing except mine is a 65 and doesnt have dual door pockets which I know to be original.
Im not sure about the side trim delete as this is a big part of the C/C package....tool box and such is as i stated in the post...as i recall is part of the C/S pkg...dont have that book in front of me right now
Sounds like a good rig...as for the steering...its not bad when in tip top shape and rolling as far as turning, for a man that is...a woman....different story most likely. Brakes...they did offer power brakes as an extra cost option but not DB till I think 67 as an option.
when you do upgrades and such, Id be happy to take the discards off your hands if in decent shape.
cant wait to see pics of your F100....cs65
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cs65 - yes I saw your post on another thread on camper specials. It has the correct emblems for custom cab on both doors and most of the other CC options. I've seen other pictures of other CC's that didn't have the chrome side trim - and I thought one source was pictures of actual 1966 advertising materials.
So the first letter is the color code for inside trim? Thanks - but my exterior code is B for Turquoise, and the interior color matches the exterior?? I don't have the 2-tone option which I believe would have been a B/M code (for turquoise and white). However my roof is white (which I like) - was this standard for this year/configuration?
I hope to have some pics this weekend (I suppose I'd better wash it first). Guess I'll use the Gallery site to upload the pics??
Cheers,
I need a month vacation now to work on this,
dagger
So the first letter is the color code for inside trim? Thanks - but my exterior code is B for Turquoise, and the interior color matches the exterior?? I don't have the 2-tone option which I believe would have been a B/M code (for turquoise and white). However my roof is white (which I like) - was this standard for this year/configuration?
I hope to have some pics this weekend (I suppose I'd better wash it first). Guess I'll use the Gallery site to upload the pics??
Cheers,
I need a month vacation now to work on this,
dagger
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Dagger...On the door tag the color code is exterior color(s), which you say yours is B which is turquoise...same code 60-66. The interior code is either a number or letter, sometimes there is 2 letters...the code on my 65 is AB81...Its the blue woven material....81 denotes conventional cab....most all of our trucks are code 81, unibodies are 99 as i recall.
As to the tutone combo, its a very common thing on our trucks...the roof and rear of cab to filler neck body line is break point. If it has side moldings which were optional w/t/light trim on stylesides ithe lower break area....creating kinda like a stripe effect, very loosely put...
Interior color choices were red,blue,green and beige
B=Blue, C=green, D=Beige, E=red F=Black all vinyl...there are several letter variations for different woven mat'l patterns...post what it says at your Body code on the door tag...this bible of Ford I got covers everything from E series up to semi truck and various seat styles....many pages needless to say...If after your DSO code there is a total of 6 numbers, i am led from previous info here, etc that 2 are the dso code itself, and other 4 are a specific order number....truck was special ordered that way, which may explain the white top possibly...Drop me an email if you wanna....Im trying to find some original blue mat'l for my 65....not easy by a longshot....
Keep me posted...cs65
As to the tutone combo, its a very common thing on our trucks...the roof and rear of cab to filler neck body line is break point. If it has side moldings which were optional w/t/light trim on stylesides ithe lower break area....creating kinda like a stripe effect, very loosely put...
Interior color choices were red,blue,green and beige
B=Blue, C=green, D=Beige, E=red F=Black all vinyl...there are several letter variations for different woven mat'l patterns...post what it says at your Body code on the door tag...this bible of Ford I got covers everything from E series up to semi truck and various seat styles....many pages needless to say...If after your DSO code there is a total of 6 numbers, i am led from previous info here, etc that 2 are the dso code itself, and other 4 are a specific order number....truck was special ordered that way, which may explain the white top possibly...Drop me an email if you wanna....Im trying to find some original blue mat'l for my 65....not easy by a longshot....
Keep me posted...cs65
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I spoke to David on the phone last night and we are planning a sunday little visit. Raleighdad are you or others in the area up for a little meet? Sounds like he has a keeper.
David is a little south of Raleigh NC. Maybe we can post a little more in the NC chapter on this site.
John
David is a little south of Raleigh NC. Maybe we can post a little more in the NC chapter on this site.
John
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David, Raleighdad and a couple NCFTO members are showing some interest, for early sunday afternoon.
Anyone else in the area that wants to meet other local owners, please post here, or contact me by tomorrow am. I guess we could start off at the gas station at Sunset & 401, huh?
John
Anyone else in the area that wants to meet other local owners, please post here, or contact me by tomorrow am. I guess we could start off at the gas station at Sunset & 401, huh?
John
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From: Creedmoor, North Carolina
I made the trip and got to see Davids new ride. Da man got a prize with that one. He and Steve both have awesome looking trucks.
I'll let him post what we verified yesterday.
John
I'll let him post what we verified yesterday.
John
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John and another ncfto member came over yesterday afternoon to check out my new ride. I want to thank John for all the time he spent with me - I had a F100 Personal Trainer (for free!) who was extremely personable and generous with his "educating" me on all things F100. What a great resource he is to have on this forum and I'm very fortunate to be close enough to be able to take advantage of that while I work on getting my Slick '66 to where I want to get it.
We had lots of fun verifying it was a real Ford truck and not a Chevy with a Ford emblem on it and that I have a real 390 engine and a 3.50 limited slip rear end. After working up a sweat trying to turn my stock manual steering around in my driveway to wash it, putting in power steering and power disc brakes is not an option! John provided more detail than I can remember but already I know how to avoid a number of pitfalls and what to do to prepare for the swap and what to look for in a donor truck, etc. (Hey - anybody got a left side engine mount from a '73-'76 FE engine F150 with power steering and a combo PS and AC engine mounting bracket??)
BTW John has a nice ride himself - I just hope to get my engine/transmission running as smoothly has his. (But I think he has a fake Custom Cab as he has too many options on it
) I've got a lot of work (mostly little things) to go on it, but got a great rust free truck to work with. Hope to see a bunch of you out there on the highways soon.
Cheers,
dagger
We had lots of fun verifying it was a real Ford truck and not a Chevy with a Ford emblem on it and that I have a real 390 engine and a 3.50 limited slip rear end. After working up a sweat trying to turn my stock manual steering around in my driveway to wash it, putting in power steering and power disc brakes is not an option! John provided more detail than I can remember but already I know how to avoid a number of pitfalls and what to do to prepare for the swap and what to look for in a donor truck, etc. (Hey - anybody got a left side engine mount from a '73-'76 FE engine F150 with power steering and a combo PS and AC engine mounting bracket??)
BTW John has a nice ride himself - I just hope to get my engine/transmission running as smoothly has his. (But I think he has a fake Custom Cab as he has too many options on it
) I've got a lot of work (mostly little things) to go on it, but got a great rust free truck to work with. Hope to see a bunch of you out there on the highways soon.Cheers,
dagger
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David, Are ye trying to say that I talk to much?? 
I could get a couple ol Mustang seats, a gas tank cover, a Comet console, an call it a Ranger. he he.
I am always ready to help get another slick on the road, and creature comforts are so easy to install.
BTW, Steve, I stopped in Carolina Classics yesterday and asked Rick about the rear coils and he had never seen any either.
John
I could get a couple ol Mustang seats, a gas tank cover, a Comet console, an call it a Ranger. he he.
I am always ready to help get another slick on the road, and creature comforts are so easy to install.
BTW, Steve, I stopped in Carolina Classics yesterday and asked Rick about the rear coils and he had never seen any either.
John