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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Seeking definitive answer on steering col.

Ok, I've been on this board for awhile now (mostly in the 67-72 forum) and I've posted this question here and in the 67-72 forum and seen others post on the same topic with two different answers. I have a '71 F250 4x4 that I want to put a C6 in with a col. shift from a '73-77 F250. My question is, are the columns (not the steering shaft) the same for 4x4 and 4x2 for those years? Please only answer if you are certain. I believe they are the same, so if you think they are not, please explain the differences.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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the only difference between 4x4 and 4x2 colums, is the end of the shaft has a steele flange welded on for 4x2 trucks. this can be cut of, and machine shop splined, to work on 4x4's. that is the ONLY difference. i have a 4x4 column, and a 4x2 column. they are identicle. same goes for floor shift columns.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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Cool, thanks 77!
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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Are you sure ? I don't think that steel flange is welded on. All the ones that I have seen have a 12 point bolt with a 7/16" or 11mm head, holding it on
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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Thanks (a) Mil1ion!
That would be even better. So, if you unbolt the collar, do you need to have it re-splined?
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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No you shouldn't have to.

The only difference I know between 2x4 & 4x4 steering is the knuckle shaft that goes from the column to the box.
The 2x4 doesn't have one.


You could always swap in a Tilt column.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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Ok, thanks. Yeah I know, but I don't like the plastic housing on the '78 and later cols. I like the steel bullet shaped fairing used on the earlier models. Plus, I'd never use the tilt feature. I have plenty of room without a tilt now thanks to my boyish figure!
 
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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Are you sure ? I don't think that steel flange is welded on. All the ones that I have seen have a bolt with a 7/16" or 11mm nut holding it on
I made a good column from 2 (non-tilt) to replace my '73 2wd manual trans column and found that the outside column/housing is the same for 2wd and 4x4. I used columns from a '77 4x4 manual trans and '78 2wd auto. Both 2wd columns had the lower flange welded to the shaft and the 4x4 had the removable knuckle with the 7/16 nut holding it on. I was under the impression that only the 2wd tilt columns had the removable flange...

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Are you sure ? I don't think that steel flange is welded on. All the ones that I have seen have a bolt with a 7/16" or 11mm nut holding it on
yep, i have one right now, i can take a picture of it. i know what you mean that it is bolted on, i've seen both. i''ll have to look, but i think, my auto trans column for a 78 has it bolted on. my manual trans column for a 77 has it welded on. i'll take pics and put them in my gallery when i get a chance later today.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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I wonder if the welded version is a non-factory fix to a broken or malfunctioning bolted flange???
 
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