oil question ?
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oil question ?
Hi, I'm brand new to these forums. I just purchased my first ever 01 excursion 7.3 PSD. I'm the owner of a watercraft dealership in NJ. I have tons of 2 stroke experiance & 0 diesel. this truck has been purchased to be the hauler for our race team.
anyway, I spent several hours last evening reading these forums. & the oil question came to play out several times. There were several negative posts on Amsoil? In our 2 stroke world they are one of the better companys. But I can see here they are not. PLEASE, do not take me for a troll . I really & truely want to know. is it the company? or the product?
I'm about to take my team to the world finals in Arizona. I have to do oil & maintaince before I leave. Any advice would be very welcome.
thanks, Paul
anyway, I spent several hours last evening reading these forums. & the oil question came to play out several times. There were several negative posts on Amsoil? In our 2 stroke world they are one of the better companys. But I can see here they are not. PLEASE, do not take me for a troll . I really & truely want to know. is it the company? or the product?
I'm about to take my team to the world finals in Arizona. I have to do oil & maintaince before I leave. Any advice would be very welcome.
thanks, Paul
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It is the Forum. I think some dealer saw dollar signs and spammed the hell out of everyone here so they hate anything to do with the company.
There are at least four guys that I know that run amsoil in their trucks and have had great results. One guy has 35k on an original filter setup, changing the filter every 5k, another has the bypass system and has 125k on the oil. I have only 7k on my oil, however it reduced the wear metals in my oil analysis by 2/3 when the original oil in the truck was a 40 wieght oil and only run for 1800 miles. So I am a believer. There are a few here but we lay low.
You have to be careful posting about Amsoil here, there is a guy named Bob Ayers that will send you hat mail about it.
There are at least four guys that I know that run amsoil in their trucks and have had great results. One guy has 35k on an original filter setup, changing the filter every 5k, another has the bypass system and has 125k on the oil. I have only 7k on my oil, however it reduced the wear metals in my oil analysis by 2/3 when the original oil in the truck was a 40 wieght oil and only run for 1800 miles. So I am a believer. There are a few here but we lay low.
You have to be careful posting about Amsoil here, there is a guy named Bob Ayers that will send you hat mail about it.
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Thanks for responding. I had a feeling it might have been something of those sorts. most of the oils produced are made by one or two companys & sold to the rest for private labeling. I belive this is true for Amsoil. they don't seem like the type of company that produces treir own product.
I'm located in central NJ , along the coast. there isn't any truck stops , or major diesel retailers close to here to buy these products. so I have to special order them from my local auto parts jobber. I just need to find a sourse locally to get a good synthetic.
This is a great site & I have learned so much already in my short time here. I hope I didn't start anything bad by this post....... I'm just learning!
thanks , Paul
I'm located in central NJ , along the coast. there isn't any truck stops , or major diesel retailers close to here to buy these products. so I have to special order them from my local auto parts jobber. I just need to find a sourse locally to get a good synthetic.
This is a great site & I have learned so much already in my short time here. I hope I didn't start anything bad by this post....... I'm just learning!
thanks , Paul
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You might want to visit your local WalMart. They have a good selection on motor oils, both dino and synthetic, and are reasonably priced. As long as it has a CH-4 or CI-4 rating it's just a matter of choice. I started using Rotella T Synthetic and think I'll stick with it. WalMart price was $12.87 a gallon.
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I was thinking of using the Rotella T Synthetic also. I too am, a new PSD owner and have lots of questions. Does anyone else have an opion on Rotella T Synthetic ?
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I decided on the rotella T, stopped by walmart last nite, never thought of going thre for truck products before, dumb me! next question would be filters? is it best just to keep it motorcraft? at this point , thats what I'm choosing.
thanks for all the imput
thanks for all the imput
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Rotella, Delvac, Havoline and Valvoline are not "true synthetics" they are a hydrogen infused dyno oil, that is basically further purified. Hence the reduced cost between them and Mobil 1, for example. Walmart sells Mobil 1 and it is still a "true" synthetic in the sense that it was lab created.
The hydrocracked are better than conventional oils, however they will not lower your operating temps nor will they give you the high temperature protection like a lab created synthetic. Just know what you are getting.
A court case back in the mid 80's where Mobil 1 sued Casteroil, because casterol was marking a futher refined dyno oil as synthetic, defined the term "synthetic" for advertising. Mobil 1 lost, and now all of these companies are marketing this dyno stuff as synthetic.
The hydrocracked are better than conventional oils, however they will not lower your operating temps nor will they give you the high temperature protection like a lab created synthetic. Just know what you are getting.
A court case back in the mid 80's where Mobil 1 sued Casteroil, because casterol was marking a futher refined dyno oil as synthetic, defined the term "synthetic" for advertising. Mobil 1 lost, and now all of these companies are marketing this dyno stuff as synthetic.
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Originally Posted by HDMustF250
Rotella, Delvac, Havoline and Valvoline are not "true synthetics" they are a hydrogen infused dyno oil, that is basically further purified. Hence the reduced cost between them and Mobil 1, for example. Walmart sells Mobil 1 and it is still a "true" synthetic in the sense that it was lab created.
The hydrocracked are better than conventional oils, however they will not lower your operating temps nor will they give you the high temperature protection like a lab created synthetic. Just know what you are getting.
A court case back in the mid 80's where Mobil 1 sued Casteroil, because casterol was marking a futher refined dyno oil as synthetic, defined the term "synthetic" for advertising. Mobil 1 lost, and now all of these companies are marketing this dyno stuff as synthetic.
The hydrocracked are better than conventional oils, however they will not lower your operating temps nor will they give you the high temperature protection like a lab created synthetic. Just know what you are getting.
A court case back in the mid 80's where Mobil 1 sued Casteroil, because casterol was marking a futher refined dyno oil as synthetic, defined the term "synthetic" for advertising. Mobil 1 lost, and now all of these companies are marketing this dyno stuff as synthetic.
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Originally Posted by HDMustF250
It is the Forum. I think some dealer saw dollar signs and spammed the hell out of everyone here so they hate anything to do with the company.
There are at least four guys that I know that run amsoil in their trucks and have had great results. One guy has 35k on an original filter setup, changing the filter every 5k, another has the bypass system and has 125k on the oil. I have only 7k on my oil, however it reduced the wear metals in my oil analysis by 2/3 when the original oil in the truck was a 40 wieght oil and only run for 1800 miles. So I am a believer. There are a few here but we lay low.
You have to be careful posting about Amsoil here, there is a guy named Bob Ayers that will send you hat mail about it.
There are at least four guys that I know that run amsoil in their trucks and have had great results. One guy has 35k on an original filter setup, changing the filter every 5k, another has the bypass system and has 125k on the oil. I have only 7k on my oil, however it reduced the wear metals in my oil analysis by 2/3 when the original oil in the truck was a 40 wieght oil and only run for 1800 miles. So I am a believer. There are a few here but we lay low.
You have to be careful posting about Amsoil here, there is a guy named Bob Ayers that will send you hat mail about it.
They need to change the name to Spamsoil.
To anyone considering synthetic I suggest buying from company with a distribution chain that has a better reputation....
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Ken, being in bussiness I fully understand your point in the scamsoil part of the bussiness & agree .............. back to the origional question, how is the oil itself? up until further reading this post, I decided on the Rotella T, now I'm not sure on that. ( I'm not saying amsoil either) is the mobil 1 the better choice? I belive in fully synthetic, but which one?
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Originally Posted by HDMustF250
Rotella, Delvac, Havoline and Valvoline are not "true synthetics" they are a hydrogen infused dyno oil, that is basically further purified
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Originally Posted by JrMagoos
Ken, being in bussiness I fully understand your point in the scamsoil part of the bussiness & agree .............. back to the origional question, how is the oil itself? up until further reading this post, I decided on the Rotella T, now I'm not sure on that. ( I'm not saying amsoil either) is the mobil 1 the better choice? I belive in fully synthetic, but which one?
Terry Dyson calls Amsoil one of the best product on north american market , and you would think that he knows what he is talking about , since all he does is oil analysis in his own lab , that should give you something to think about
Best regards
Just in case I'm not a dealer or a Amsoil user . Those are just the facts , you like or not
