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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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why is it in the engine forums we refer to the old engies in cubic inches and the new engines are listed in liters why when you buy cars today instead of saying it has a 330 cubic inch engine they say it has a 5.4 liter engine what gives.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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Well, I remember seeing a badge saying "6.5 Liters" on a Cougar....guess that was a 390....


Anyway, it was the effort to change to the metric system. Automakers got out front because going metric on fasteners etc starts making a lot of sense when you are mixing and matching sources and trying to sell cars outside the US.


So naturally, engine size was first in line.....

And of course, Americans, having difficulty counting to 10, rejected the metric system so now we have a mix of english and metric.

At least we have not gone the way of England....where there are penalties for not using metric.

It's enough to make a guy want to down a pint.... or is that a half liter?

Hey and don't forget those 7 Liter Galaxies......

Just memorize 61.2 times all the numbers you can think of.

My Audi is a 1.8, but I prefer to say "She's so fine, my 109".
 
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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I refuse to call a 302 a 5.0. Metric =
 
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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I want a liter of cola!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike W
I refuse to call a 302 a 5.0. Metric =
Yea, Right Arm, man....besides, it's really 4.9.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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even more confusin', is that I call trucks 302's "302",
and mustang 302's are 5-oh, to me, evything else is as it has been, i call 351 W "a windsor", and the like, lol
 
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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well I guess I am going to have to start calling them a 444 c.i. PowerStroke and 365 c.i. PowerStroke instead of 7.3L PowerStroke and 6.0L PowerStroke
 
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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My Honda CB 450 was actually 444cc. What a coincidence that 444 has surfaced again....
 
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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well I guess I am going to have to start calling them a 444 c.i. PowerStroke and 365 c.i. PowerStroke instead of 7.3L PowerStroke and 6.0L PowerStroke
Why not, when it is installed in an International truck it's called a T444E.

It's not really a new thing either in the 70's Trans Ams had 6.6 litre on them with the 400 engine. The 60's GTO had 6.5 Litre in the center of the fender emblem.
 

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Why are tires sized by mixed metric/inch dimensions? That is just plain crazy. I also never understood why US engines always had metric spark plug threads, when the rest of the engine was designed in inches. Just some things to ponder in this inch/metric debate.

Jim
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 85F250XLT
Why not, when it is installed in an International truck it's called a T444E.

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I know that.

It's just that I have gotten into a habit of calling them that. That's just what everyone else calls them, so I do the same.
 
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[QUOTE=85e150six4mtod]Well, I remember seeing a badge saying "6.5 Liters" on a Cougar....guess that was a 390....


Anyway, it was the effort to change to the metric system. Automakers got out front because going metric on fasteners etc starts making a lot of sense when you are mixing and matching sources and trying to sell cars outside the US.


So naturally, engine size was first in line.....

And of course, Americans, having difficulty counting to 10, rejected the metric system so now we have a mix of english and metric. End QUOTE]

Tire sizes: Tires are sold everywhere, so they settled on a standard. Mystery is why the wheels are still in inches. Maybe it was a compromise.

Engines: Haven't torn down any new ones but aren't they all metric these days? It's the body work that's still english.

One or the other would be nice, but I've got both sets of tools for small jobs and remember:

7/16 = 11 mm
9/16 = close enough to 14mm
5/8 = 16 mm
3/4 = 19mm (lug nut and spark plug)

And you will find those sizes in abundance for some reason....
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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My theory is that the old carbed engines were refered to by their displacement in inches. And the fuel injected engines started to be refered by thier displacement in liters.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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I had another kid come up to me and ask what i had under the hood and I told him it was a 460. He said wow is that big? I mean what is that in liters. I said I dunno why don't you do the math and get your Honda out of here before i beat it in a race again. He came up to me next week and told me that it was a 7.5 liter and that he thought that was big compared to his 1. somthing liter car.
 
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