pulling 20k
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pulling 20k
Have an 04 F350 Cab and Chassis(4x4,6spd w/ standard 9ft flatbed. Just purchased new HD gooseneck(18,000# capacity w/duals on 2 axles) I pull mostly round bales and med weight farm tractors 80-100 hp. I will need to occasionally make short trips pulling 410C backhoe. Weight is 14,300hoe-trailer weight is 5,300 equaling close to 20K. I am figuring about 4,000 lbs on the truck with the hoe loaded which is ok, but I know I'm pushing factory specs with everything added up.. anybody pushed the package on this?...successfully I might add. 
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This just my opinion ,you are way to heavey.yes these things are underated a little but your gcvw is too high for a f350. You need to think safety of others first also.
Can that truck do it yes ,but how long it would last and if they get you on a scale somewhere your going to pay a healthy fine.
Rich
Can that truck do it yes ,but how long it would last and if they get you on a scale somewhere your going to pay a healthy fine.
Rich
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ok i have a 99 f-350 Supercab V-10 4x4 dually that i tow a Case 580K 4x4 Enclosed Cab. i will agree that is way to much backhoe for my truck but. i have been taught to drive by the best of them here. be slow, doiwn shift and always keep backpressure on the engine when you let off the throtle. and you should be fine. don't advise you do it every day, but occasionaly ok. just don't let the ol smokey get to ya and weigh ya.
Be safe and cautious and you'l be fine.
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Be safe and cautious and you'l be fine.
1978 F-250 Ranger Explorer 4x4
351M, C-6, Np205, D44, D60 4.10LS
Drive It Like You Stole It!!!
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o yeah did i metion it's a booger in the mountains, i just took a trip from chico california to susanville, california on highway 32 about 120 miles one way with 6 to 8% grades. Talk about sweaty palms and white nuckles. God Dang people on that road are rude as hell and want you to go 55 on 15MPH corners that are hairpin turns. i was mostly in 1st gear that trip. i have an auto trans. i don't use it as an auto i drive it as a manual. got 283K out of my last trans in a 1991 dodge dually cummins, not bad uh. the backhoe and trailer weigh about 26,000# with no extra buckets or anything, my other hoes with the trailer are about 24,000#. my entire weight is something like 33,000#. a little overweight but it doesn't squat at all. drives and rides better loaded than unloaded. not scary to drive at all.
1978 F-250 Ranger Explorer 4x4
351M, C-6, Np205, D44, D60 4.10LS
Drive It Like You Stole It!!!
1978 F-250 Ranger Explorer 4x4
351M, C-6, Np205, D44, D60 4.10LS
Drive It Like You Stole It!!!
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Total truck load will be 20k including wt of trailer. Had the manufacturer spec the trailer to haul 18,000 load(no problem there) but if you add the approx 8,000 of the truck, I would be sitting at exactly 27,600)My trips are less than 20 mi.several times per year. Thought I heard that the 05 F350 models have been upped to 27,000 gvw with no spring,chassis or empty truck wt. changes(ie same truck). I will license the truck for 20,000 minimum or higher if I can. Thanks for the input though-good advice, will amend my thinking and be more cautious when I try this. 
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i'm gooseneck and nothing but. i will never pull anything with pintle unless i have a tractor trailer. won't even pull a 5er with a standard 5th wheel hitch. everything i own is transfered over to a gooseneck. i hope you are too right!!!!
1978 F-250 Ranger Explorer 4x4
351M, C-6, Np205, D44, D60 4.10LS
Drive It Like You Stole It!!!
1978 F-250 Ranger Explorer 4x4
351M, C-6, Np205, D44, D60 4.10LS
Drive It Like You Stole It!!!
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thats why you use your engine and trans to stop the majority of the weight and the brakes take the final rest of it. it's all about backpressure. it's a wonderful thing. the engine won't let the truck go any faster than it will rev. so say in 1 i can only go 28mph@5800rpm. it's self explantatory from here on out. get the drift????
1978 F-250 Ranger Explorer 4x4
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Drive It Like You Stole It!!!
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No problem with trailer brakes-heavy duty on both axles with dual wheels. Enginee is 6.0 ps so no problem with pulling or "holding back" with engine compression. Anybody know the specs on the 05 350 cc(gvw)?
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