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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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Front End Stability

Somebody posted a while back about the front end stabiltiy of the Excursions.They solved the problem buy adding something-maybe sway bars? I emailed them wanting the part name and how to purchase this item. I never heard from the person.
Can anybody shed some light on this/Thanks \
Ken Robinson-2000 Ex 7.3 4x4
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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If it's sway bars you want - try JC whitney or Summit's web sites and/or call them...

Landyot's radius bars have been on my research list for a while... but have not followed up on it... he has many happy customers from my readings though...

the hellwig rear sway bar is first rate and for less than $150 will make your X take the curves like a sports car !!! Well - a BIG 8k lb sports car
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
Landyot's radius bars have been on my research list for a while... but have not followed up on it... he has many happy customers from my readings though...
Yes, they look very interesting, but I am not fond of the idea of whacking off a big piece of the existing spring to get it to fit.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Yes, they look very interesting, but I am not fond of the idea of whacking off a big piece of the existing spring to get it to fit.
Whack of a spring!!!!!!! NO look better. That is Fords idea of axle wrap fix!! I love my radius rods. Ford should take notes here.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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Whack of a spring!!!!!!! NO look better. That is Fords idea of axle wrap fix!! I love my radius rods. Ford should take notes here.
I know how they install. You need to cut off the snubber end of the 7th leaf (anti-windup leaf).
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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I know how they install. You need to cut off the snubber end of the 7th leaf (anti-windup leaf).
Just making sure. I have noticed improved braking also from the rods. The axle wrap is gone. Hit the gas and the truck goes. As a help in the steering i have done so much to the X i couldn't really tell on that. The truck is awesome when towing too. I am in NO way realated or paid by the maker of these fine devices, just harping on my real world experances.
Good luck
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Just making sure. I have noticed improved braking also from the rods. The axle wrap is gone. Hit the gas and the truck goes. As a help in the steering i have done so much to the X i couldn't really tell on that. The truck is awesome when towing too. I am in NO way realated or paid by the maker of these fine devices, just harping on my real world experances.
Good luck
If my X is out of the barn, it's got a trailer hooked to it, so "getupandgo" is not something that I am looking for.

I've got no quibble with the product, just don't like the idea of taking a cutting torch to the suspension of a vehicle still under factory warranty.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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The Magnuson-Moss Act
Protecting tweakers, tuners, and other users of aftermarket equipment.


FANNING FEARS

You want to upgrade your vehicle with aftermarket equipment, but you’re worried about putting the vehicle’s warranty at risk. It’s no wonder. How many times have you heard somene of a dealership say that installing aftermarket equipment automatically voids the warranty? This common misconception has been repeated often enough to be widely believed – though it is completely false.

Fact: Dealers don’t like warranty work, because it pays less than normal repair work. By promoting the myth that aftermarket equipment automatically voids warranties, some dealers avoid such low-paying work. Instead, they attempt to charge customers the prime service rate for work which is rightfully done under warranty.


THE TRUTH

Most vehicle owners are not aware they are protected by federal law: the Magnuson-Moss Warranty – Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975. Under the Magnuson-Moss Act, aftermarket equipment which improves performance does not void a vehicle manufacturer’s original warranty, unless the warranty clearly and conspicuously states that aftermarket equipment voids the warranty. Most states have warranty statutes, as well. Which provide further protections for vehicle owners.

In other words, that means a dealer can’t wiggle out of his legal warranty obligation merely because you install aftermarket equipment. To find out if any aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicle’s warranty, check the owner’s manual. It is likely the language you are looking for appears under a heading such as “What Is Not Covered” Although the language seems negative, remember your vehicle manufacturer is simply saying he does not cover the aftermarket products themselves. He is not saying that the products would void the vehicle warranty.


VEHICLE DEALERS OBLIGATIONS

Suppose your modified vehicle needs repairs while still under warranty. Without analyzing the true cause of the problem, the dealer attempts to deny warranty coverage. He made his decision simply based on the fact that you’ve installed aftermarket equipment – a convenient way to dodge low-paying warranty work.

An example of how ridiculous this can get is the man who was denied warranty coverage by a dealer on his power door locks, because he had improved his exhaust system! Sounds nuts? It really happened – because that man did not know his rights and challenge the dealer’s decision.

Fact: A dealer must prove – not just say – that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before he can deny warranty coverage on that basis.


YOUR RIGHTS

Point out to the dealer the provision of the Magnuson-Moss Act- Require that he explain to you how the aftermarket equipment caused the problem. If he can’t – or his explanation sounds questionable – it is your legal right to demand he comply with the warranty.

Fact: If you are still being unfairly denied warranty coverage, there is recourse. The Federal Trade Commission, which administers the Magnuson-Moss Act, monitors compliance with warranty issues. Direct complaints to the FCT at (202) 326-3128.


DODGE MOTORS: “Certain changes that you might make to your truck do not, by themselves, void the warranties described in this booklet. Examples of some of these changes are: installing non-Chrysler parts, components, or equipment.” – 1997 Warranty Information supplement to Dodge


Owner’s Manual: GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION

“If a Chevrolet part fails due to a defect in material or workmanship not related to (on aftermarket products) or the labor to install it. Chevrolet would be responsible for covering the failed part.” – Chevrolet Customer Assistance Center


FORD MOTOR COMPANY: “Installation of a non-genuine Ford item does not, in and of itself, render warranty void.” – Ford Owner Relations Division


FEDERAL LAW: ‘In order to improve the adequacy of information available to consumers, prevent deception, and improve competition in the marketing of consumer products, any warrantor warranting a consumer product to a consumer by means of a written warranty shall. . .fully and conspicuously disclose in simple and readily understood language the terms and conditions of such warranty. Such rules . . . require inclusion in the written warranty of any . . . exceptions and exclusions from the terms of the warranty.’ – Magnuson-Moss Warranty & Federal Trade Commission improvement Act. Section 2302(a)
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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The MM act is GREAT ...
IF you got the bucks to pay for lawyers for years when all Ford has to say is No, that engine/tranny/whatever is not covered....

I WISH I fit under that area of the bell curve, but I don't so the MM is nearly useless to me
 
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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I saw it posted about the 05's the past 4 days--there is a warranty exclusion due to the use of aftermarket parts under the hood of the new trucks. Can anyone provide what it says again? and my other question would be--just because they SAY it doesn't necessarily make it legal--would again be like saying use of any aftermarket part would void warranty.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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Thumbs up Radius Rod Believer

Hi to all, I am new here to FTE and hope I am posting this message in the right place. I have purchased and installed the LANDYOT radius rods and must say they are the best investment and improvement I have done to my ex hands down, I also had previously installed a hellwig swaybar with minimum gains, once the radius rods were installed my sway and wandering problems have vanished. I have had the rods on now for almost 2 months and got alot of seat time with them to come to the conclusion that they work GREAT. I also tow a 9K lb travel trailer and they have improved the towing charecteristics immensely, the difference is night and day with these rods installed. I installed the rods in a couple hours with no diffuculty whatsoever, the craftsmanship of the rods and the installation instructions are impressing and professional. I HIGHLY reccomend LANDYOT and the radius rods, I must say that in dealing with Ken via email was as much professional as is his product, his prompt email replies were much appreciated along with being there for any questions or problems encountered. Thank you Ken, ( I tip my hat to ya ).
 
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