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help me out here!
im about to buy a 1972 gran torino and i believe it has a 351 cleveland it has the small sparkplugs if that helps,whats a way to tell if its a cleveland or a modified and whats the difference?are clevelands good engines ?what kindof gas mileage? or is it best to go to a 351 windsor or a 302? it has an automatic tranny and a "9 rear end,i thought gran torinos came out with "8's why would it have the 9?its all original
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Well if you know for a fact it is a 351, and you know it is the origanal engine, and you also know it's not a windsor then it is a cleveland, best way to check that is 8 bolts in the valve covers, and the water neck mounting surface, and the front of the intake mounting surface are equal height then it is a cleve if the intake sits higher than the water neck it is a 351m/400.
And torinos came with 9s not the 8 they are a full frame car, and as far as I know the 8in only came in unibody cars, but I have been wrong before.
And torinos came with 9s not the 8 they are a full frame car, and as far as I know the 8in only came in unibody cars, but I have been wrong before.
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Originally Posted by monsterbaby
Well if you know for a fact it is a 351, and you know it is the origanal engine, and you also know it's not a windsor then it is a cleveland, best way to check that is 8 bolts in the valve covers, and the water neck mounting surface, and the front of the intake mounting surface are equal height then it is a cleve if the intake sits higher than the water neck it is a 351m/400.
And torinos came with 9s not the 8 they are a full frame car, and as far as I know the 8in only came in unibody cars, but I have been wrong before.
And torinos came with 9s not the 8 they are a full frame car, and as far as I know the 8in only came in unibody cars, but I have been wrong before.
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everything except the 289, 360-390 and 300 I6 had small 5/8" spark plugs.
The best way to tell is that the 400/351C has 8 bolt valve covers, and the 400 has a 10.7" wide intake, and the 351C is narrower. 6 bolts is W
The best way to tell is that the 400/351C has 8 bolt valve covers, and the 400 has a 10.7" wide intake, and the 351C is narrower. 6 bolts is W
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I will post this again:
Engine Identification:
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351C/M/400 335 series: 8 bolts in rectangular valve covers. Timing chain housing is part of block. Thermostat housing on block. Exhaust bolt holes diagonal.
351M/400 335 series: intake is 10.7" wide the 351C is narrow.
351W/302/5.0L 6 bolts on trapezoidal valve covers. Thermostat housing on intake. Exhaust bolt holes horizontal.
429/460 385 series: 7 bolts in rectangular valve cover
352/360/390/427/428 FE series: Intake goes under valve covers.
There are other indicators but these may help.
Engine Identification:
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351C/M/400 335 series: 8 bolts in rectangular valve covers. Timing chain housing is part of block. Thermostat housing on block. Exhaust bolt holes diagonal.
351M/400 335 series: intake is 10.7" wide the 351C is narrow.
351W/302/5.0L 6 bolts on trapezoidal valve covers. Thermostat housing on intake. Exhaust bolt holes horizontal.
429/460 385 series: 7 bolts in rectangular valve cover
352/360/390/427/428 FE series: Intake goes under valve covers.
There are other indicators but these may help.
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Eric, Is it also true that only the clever has the distributor slightly tilted to the passengers side of the block
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im bettin that its the cleveland 351 but now i have another question...how do you tell if it has 2v or 4v heads?
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im bettin that its the cleveland 351 but now i have another question...how do you tell if it has 2v or 4v heads?
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Originally Posted by Torque1st
The Cleveland is a good high RPM high HP engine but trucks are heavy and require torque at low RPM's to make them move. The Cleveland was only used in lighter sports type vehicles.
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The main reasoning was that the FE was a good enough motor at the time, that it wasn't necessary to have a 351, only 9 cubic inches difference.
Its the same reason they didn't put the Windsor in the trucks.
Its the same reason they didn't put the Windsor in the trucks.
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