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engine casting codes
I recently bought a 1965 ford f250 and would like to verify what motor is in it. The only casting numbers I have found so far are 65AE-A is this the number I need to verify the engine and if so does anyone know what engine it is.
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I am not sure about the 6's, but the 352's block casting number is on bottom side(oil pan surface area at LF of truck....opposite side of the battery. the block should be like a C5TE, maybe an A as opposed to a T, mine is a T C=60's era part, 5= 2nd digit of yr part designed(65), T= truck, A= automobile, E= engine
My engine is original, but on the intake its casting is a C5AE....there are other numbers,letter and sometimes dots in sequence...If you got a dirty motor....scrape and blast the area with carb cleaner or similar....is read on 352 with you on your back....looking up on pan surface area....is right at front left corner of block.
Also, check your VIN...its 4th or 5th that denotes engine....other is plant built at...I always get them criscrossed....
Hope this helps....cs65
My engine is original, but on the intake its casting is a C5AE....there are other numbers,letter and sometimes dots in sequence...If you got a dirty motor....scrape and blast the area with carb cleaner or similar....is read on 352 with you on your back....looking up on pan surface area....is right at front left corner of block.
Also, check your VIN...its 4th or 5th that denotes engine....other is plant built at...I always get them criscrossed....
Hope this helps....cs65
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I forgot the other way....if the truck hasnt been molested, there should be a metal tag...bout 1/2"X 2" long held on with a bolt....I have found most under coil braket where bolts to intake m/fold....other area is the dipstick retainer bolt into head.
On mine, has C/C package with both oil light and gauge, mine was wrapped into a wire retainer for those wires as well as dipstick tube retainer....On the tag, will say positively the engine size in its CID i.e. 352,240, etc....
Keep in mind, the tag location specifics are for 352 engines....only v-8 Ford used in these trucks. Metal tag on 6 cyl I would be would be in similar areas....coil brkt area for one .....Im sure others will chime in with where they have found theirs....
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On mine, has C/C package with both oil light and gauge, mine was wrapped into a wire retainer for those wires as well as dipstick tube retainer....On the tag, will say positively the engine size in its CID i.e. 352,240, etc....
Keep in mind, the tag location specifics are for 352 engines....only v-8 Ford used in these trucks. Metal tag on 6 cyl I would be would be in similar areas....coil brkt area for one .....Im sure others will chime in with where they have found theirs....
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352 casting codes
I cleaned the casting mark better and it turns out that is C5AE-A I couldn't find the tags you talked about in your second post but the info you gave me makes me believe it is a 352 Thanks
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The numbers are many times real faint as I think they were from a changable die set when block was cast. they usually are in an oval area in the vicinity of the number. But the C5AE-A is a first run block as the -A,B or whatever is the change level to the piece. in a nutshell, its a first run block. The oval area I noted above would be a combo of numbers and letters....look on your intake in front of carb....you will see what I mean....the letter is the month,2 digit date and I have seen a dot or 2....2nd or 1st shift run I am assuming on that one....These kinda numbers can also be found on the heads in the middle between 2nd and 3rd plugs....Ford was great at putting the casting numbers on nearly everything of major substance...
Hope this helps ....if ya want, drop me an email....cs65
Hope this helps ....if ya want, drop me an email....cs65
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I just bought another can of degreaser and what I found was as follows:
On the block C5AE-A I did not find an oval area but on the front of the block below the left side head is a small 21 and under it a larger 352
on the manifold is C5AE9425B and in the oval 5C26:
on the head is C5AE and next to it 6090G
On the block C5AE-A I did not find an oval area but on the front of the block below the left side head is a small 21 and under it a larger 352
on the manifold is C5AE9425B and in the oval 5C26:
on the head is C5AE and next to it 6090G
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Here is an educated guess... Because you have found the 352 on the motor and based on the casting numbers, the engine is of the FE engine family, coincidently enough, in 65 it was 352 cubic inches. Your VIN number on the door tag should read F25D, where "D" is the 352 V8 for 1965. Would the motor be black in color with gold valve covers by any chance???
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Originally Posted by Mike G
Here is an educated guess... Because you have found the 352 on the motor and based on the casting numbers, the engine is of the FE engine family, coincidently enough, in 65 it was 352 cubic inches. Your VIN number on the door tag should read F25D, where "D" is the 352 V8 for 1965. Would the motor be black in color with gold valve covers by any chance???
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as to the 352 on the front of block, as i recall all the FE's have this regardless of size....the 21 Im not familiar with...need to go look at mine.
The intake...C5AE....1965 car engine...9425 is Fords number for intake manifolds..for parts dept. B is a 2nd level revision.
Heads...6090 G is head part family(bare head as I recall...G is revision level.
The date on your intake is march 26,1965,2nd shift I would guess on the 2 dots. 5= 1965 (year cast), C= 3rd month...all were alphabetical...dont think I was used, not positive though. 26= 26th day of month...and 2 dots i believe to be a 2nd shift cast period....again, not positive...a guesstimation...seems logical to me though.
So you truck was most likely built end of march/first part of April of '65.
Hope this helps...cs65
The intake...C5AE....1965 car engine...9425 is Fords number for intake manifolds..for parts dept. B is a 2nd level revision.
Heads...6090 G is head part family(bare head as I recall...G is revision level.
The date on your intake is march 26,1965,2nd shift I would guess on the 2 dots. 5= 1965 (year cast), C= 3rd month...all were alphabetical...dont think I was used, not positive though. 26= 26th day of month...and 2 dots i believe to be a 2nd shift cast period....again, not positive...a guesstimation...seems logical to me though.
So you truck was most likely built end of march/first part of April of '65.
Hope this helps...cs65
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65 was the first year of the FE in the truck line. They were installed in the car line starting in 58 I believe. If I am not mistaken, you would be able to find some outfitted with the gold covers there...
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352? hp
lam sure my block is a 352 , though , when i buy spark plugs
there for a 390
anyway i just put a 4 barrell intake and 4 b carter street performer 625 cfm,
roughly, what would anybody think the horse power would be?
with all the other variables
it really has a swift rev , havent even got it out on the
street yet,
there for a 390
anyway i just put a 4 barrell intake and 4 b carter street performer 625 cfm,
roughly, what would anybody think the horse power would be?
with all the other variables
it really has a swift rev , havent even got it out on the
street yet,
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Ford Casting Numbers do not cross reference to Ford Part Numbers.
The 352/360/390/410/428 bare blocks were all cast originally as 352's.
Only when the block is finished, can it be something other than a 352.
1960/66: All Ford engine blocks & heads regardless of size were painted BLACK.
The valve covers were painted different colors per truck or car engine size, because that was FoMoCo's way from 1952 thru 1966 to ID what size the engine was.
1967 and later: All Ford engines are painted Ford Corporate BLUE.
Over the years, engine paint wears off, and ppl re-paint them blue because they see newer engines painted that color, and think their engine should also be blue.
Not correct prior to 1967.
1965/66 Ford 352 engines installed in trucks: Black: block, heads, intake manifold, waterpump.
Black: oil bath air cleaner, timing cover, oil pan, starter, alternator brackets. GOLD valve covers.
Crank & waterpump pulleys, harmonic balancer, alternator, exhaust manifolds were left in their natural state = not painted.
The carburetor wasn't painted either. :-)
Since it's a 2100 Series 2V, it's usually a mixture of a dull metal color with the reddish brown color gasoline leaves behind when it leaks out. :-(
The 352/360/390/410/428 bare blocks were all cast originally as 352's.
Only when the block is finished, can it be something other than a 352.
1960/66: All Ford engine blocks & heads regardless of size were painted BLACK.
The valve covers were painted different colors per truck or car engine size, because that was FoMoCo's way from 1952 thru 1966 to ID what size the engine was.
1967 and later: All Ford engines are painted Ford Corporate BLUE.
Over the years, engine paint wears off, and ppl re-paint them blue because they see newer engines painted that color, and think their engine should also be blue.
Not correct prior to 1967.
1965/66 Ford 352 engines installed in trucks: Black: block, heads, intake manifold, waterpump.
Black: oil bath air cleaner, timing cover, oil pan, starter, alternator brackets. GOLD valve covers.
Crank & waterpump pulleys, harmonic balancer, alternator, exhaust manifolds were left in their natural state = not painted.
The carburetor wasn't painted either. :-)
Since it's a 2100 Series 2V, it's usually a mixture of a dull metal color with the reddish brown color gasoline leaves behind when it leaks out. :-(