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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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does the cab on the superduty really need to be pulled in order to take out the diesel? does dodge and gmc go thru this too, i'm thinking of buying a F350 superduty 4x4, but i seems there are lots of problems with these trucks, and frankly the idea of a dealership taking the cab off the truck scares me.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by superhooperduty
does the cab on the superduty really need to be pulled in order to take out the diesel? does dodge and gmc go thru this too, i'm thinking of buying a F350 superduty 4x4, but i seems there are lots of problems with these trucks, and frankly the idea of a dealership taking the cab off the truck scares me.
Buy the truck if you like it. If your already worried about repairs then don't. Whether they need to take the cab on or off (an I have no idea) should be a remote and small likely hood.

I can not remember if it was this forum or anther where a guy had to pay 11,000 for a new motor and he never said anything about removing the cab.

Good luck, but seems that there are more important things to worry about than if the cab has to be removed or not.... if I were to say yes... would you run out and buy a GM or Dodge tomorrow... probably not since your screen name says your a Senior poster so I assume you are a Ford SD fan!!!

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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by superhooperduty
does the cab on the superduty really need to be pulled in order to take out the diesel? does dodge and gmc go thru this too, i'm thinking of buying a F350 superduty 4x4, but i seems there are lots of problems with these trucks, and frankly the idea of a dealership taking the cab off the truck scares me.
I honestly have no idea about pulling the cab, I would personally doubt that but I suppose anything is possible. Also, remember most folks come to places like this looking for answers because they ALREADY HAVE PROBLEMS. There are many many many more PSD's out there that haven't had any problems. I'm at 15,000 miles and not one single problem. 7 out of the 10 trim carpenters I work with drive PSD. 6 of those 7 are 6.0's and one is a 7.3. They haven't had any problems to speak of. So my advice would be not to base your decision on people who already have problems and that's why they are here. But look around there are also TONS of stories from people who wouldn't trade their PSD for anything. I think the history of Ford Trucks speak for themselves. Either way best of luck.

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P.S. Anyone want me to post pictures of the beast?? I've added an 8" BDS all spring lift, nitrogen shocks, dual in the front, steering stabilizer, and 38"x15.5" TrXus STS Radials on Weld Racing Stone Crushers....
 
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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NO.....

The cab doesn't need to be lifted.. But, the front end does need to come totally apart for there to be enough clearance for the engine to come out of the front.. So, in short..'Everything' in front of the motor (sheet metal ,lights, rad, A/C cond., cooler ect.), as well as the hood.. Not a pretty site.. Mine is an 1/03 build and has always run strong.. Some engines need the 'big fix' and that goes for all the manufactures.. I'm around the Ford service area alot at our local dealer, and I've seen a 'few' with major repairs.. Complete engine exchanges and a few being overhauled.. The early builds were/seem to be the most problematic, and the later builds seem to be a better bet.. Remember, these engines are covered for 100,000 miles.. Should ease some of the fear if your buying new with no mileage.. If you have concerns, buy a late build, or there's always gas!! I make it a point to ask all the owners out on the road I run across, how their trucks a doing.. So far, no one has complained about an engine be replaced.. There out there, but maybe the numbers are better than what are reflected on the forums.. Here and elsewhere.. But the 6.0 is an awesome power plant..


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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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No they don't. I've seen one personally in the shop taken out of a truck. It was a rig truck by the way that was badly abused, nothing to do with being a lemon.

The 6.0 is a much bigger engine and heavier then it's pre-decessor the 7.3 though, they had a hard time working with it because they weren't used to it, but no, the cab was not off of the truck!
 
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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Maybe what your hearing about, is in reference to the 'E' series van with 6.0.. Body 'lift' for engine removal.. There's not enough front end, OR, opening to be able to pull the engine from the front... I've done body lifts before for frame replacements ect. on other models, and with todays technology and design as far as 'quick' disconnects/connectors as well as componantized building it not a scary as you'd think.. Not fun.. but easier than in the past..

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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Actually, I think I'd rather have them lift the cab, fenders and front end all as one piece. Like Hayapower said, with the new technology and the disconnects, less damage would be done by taking it off. after all, they put the motor in before putting the cab on at the factory.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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Thumbs up pull cab

yes u are correct, i'm a dyed in the BLUE ford fan, i had to ask about pulling the cab tho, i tried beating a newer PSD crewcab 4x4 8" box from a stop light the other day, i have a 24valve 02 ses tauras. i almost didn't beat him, it seemed to pull very strong, i'll have to buy one, my brother and his two son's all bought 04 dog ram quad cabs 4x4 (and yes i spelled dodge---dog on purpose) short boxes, two got 3500's and one got a 2500. i guess the thing that gets me most is that, they get wonderful mileage, but when i ask how many miles to gallon, they all say i got x miles on a tank, and in my book thats not correctly finding real mileage. anyway thanks for all the input the 2005 SD looks awesum.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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Looks even better from behind the wheel!!

And hard to believe, but 'technically' (although some changes have been made) the same rig, but the 05's ride 'and' engine sound are way different even from my 03.. OH OH, I feel the hook being sunk!!

Good luck with your purchase decision.....

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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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I havent done a 6.0 but I've done others and I prefer to lift the body off the frame. It makes working on the engine way easier. I even pull the body to do head gaskets on F-150s. It takes less than 2 hours to have the body off and then everything is easy to get to, no scratching fenders while trying to work over them, no sore back etc.
To see what a Navigator and an F150 look like with the body lifted take a look at http://flatratetech.com/images/nav_how_to.htm . The SuperDuty looks similar.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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I could drop by here more often but other than driving them I really dont like 6.0's
 
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Old Aug 28, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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So,,, in all 'actuality' you could hold the cab in a fixed/raised/stationary position, and do a 'chassis lowering'.. A third option!!!!

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Old Aug 28, 2004 | 08:14 AM
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hmmm I should try that.
Do you think that it would work if I just tied the whole truck up to the rafters with rope through the side windows and then let the chassis down?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Racerguy
I havent done a 6.0 but I've done others and I prefer to lift the body off the frame. It makes working on the engine way easier. I even pull the body to do head gaskets on F-150s. It takes less than 2 hours to have the body off and then everything is easy to get to, no scratching fenders while trying to work over them, no sore back etc.
To see what a Navigator and an F150 look like with the body lifted take a look at http://flatratetech.com/images/nav_how_to.htm . The SuperDuty looks similar.

Talk about a lift kit, i guess this is only for a well equipped shop?
 
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