Power Programer Question
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Originally Posted by Vic_Ferrari
We are talking about the 1704...
Anyways, the 1704 has near stock shift points and shift pressure at light throttle, but gets more aggressive as you move your foot.
However, even with "normal" driving, there it some serious part-throttle tuning. You will feel a differeence in power even at moderate pedal positions.
The overall program works great, because most people are picking up very noticeable mileage gains, the drivability is better than stock and the power when you get on it is incredible and very smooth with a nice crisp shift.
Anyways, the 1704 has near stock shift points and shift pressure at light throttle, but gets more aggressive as you move your foot.
However, even with "normal" driving, there it some serious part-throttle tuning. You will feel a differeence in power even at moderate pedal positions.
The overall program works great, because most people are picking up very noticeable mileage gains, the drivability is better than stock and the power when you get on it is incredible and very smooth with a nice crisp shift.
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Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
Sorry Vic, you shouldn't hijack the thread and turn it into a marketing program. The guy asked about BOTH programmers. You are wrong to slam Purple.
When I made that post, I thought I was in the 1704 thread for some dumb reason.
I already apologized.
I make a point of it not to say much or anything in the Predator thread, so I was a bit ****y at that moment.
Dang.......
Don't you notice I tell everyone to try both programmers from a freind and see which they choose for themselves.
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Originally Posted by John Russell
Ken,
As a front line dealer and moderator, I believe I read what you said the first time! I also read through a lot of extremely long threads prior to making my first post, and upon completion, I placed an order for my choice with Motorhaven, which I believe is a front line dealer!
As I have a fairly new product, I felt your response a bit harsh since that particular issue has been rectified,and I also noticed no mention by you of a problem noted in another thread that caused me to make the choice I made. My point is, no matter what anyone chooses, they will get a very noticeable increase in power with either of the above programmers, or any of the others available for that matter. I do agree that both of the above mentioned products are good, and I really don't care which one anyone gets because it will be correct FOR THEM, as I believe mine was for me.
Now that being said, if I commonly drove in traffic and never exceeded 45 mph, I would probably not spend the money for either because it would be extremely hard to justify the expense.
All this boils down to personal choice, and all I wanted to express is mine, because I have nothing to gain, I do not sell parts or represent either manufacturer as do other respondents on both sides in this thread, and yes, I do read!
John Russell
As a front line dealer and moderator, I believe I read what you said the first time! I also read through a lot of extremely long threads prior to making my first post, and upon completion, I placed an order for my choice with Motorhaven, which I believe is a front line dealer!
As I have a fairly new product, I felt your response a bit harsh since that particular issue has been rectified,and I also noticed no mention by you of a problem noted in another thread that caused me to make the choice I made. My point is, no matter what anyone chooses, they will get a very noticeable increase in power with either of the above programmers, or any of the others available for that matter. I do agree that both of the above mentioned products are good, and I really don't care which one anyone gets because it will be correct FOR THEM, as I believe mine was for me.
Now that being said, if I commonly drove in traffic and never exceeded 45 mph, I would probably not spend the money for either because it would be extremely hard to justify the expense.
All this boils down to personal choice, and all I wanted to express is mine, because I have nothing to gain, I do not sell parts or represent either manufacturer as do other respondents on both sides in this thread, and yes, I do read!
John Russell
Frankly, the Diablo/Superchips war among users is humorous from my point view. Why? Because both products are solid products, have few complaints and a near zero return rate. People love both products. Some who have tried both prefer Superchips, others Diablo. It comes to a personal choice, and a matter of what features are important to the individual.
I don't think you can go wrong with either and the competition will just make each company produce better products. I win, you win and the manufacturers win.
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Choctaw, that would be cool!
Hey now,
That would be fun, and if at all possible, I would love to make it! Shoot, I personally don't care which one is bigger, it's all fun and I would love to see the difference they really make. Choctaw, I have a 15 year old Serior and 15 year old Sophomore in High School, and both are in Sports (currently VolleyBall & Football). I can promise you if I don't have family conflicts I would love to do a couple of pulls....just to see how close I can get my truck in RWHP to my 427 Cobra Replica!
Thanks for the offer, and what part of the Metroplex is the Dyno you use located?
John Russell
That would be fun, and if at all possible, I would love to make it! Shoot, I personally don't care which one is bigger, it's all fun and I would love to see the difference they really make. Choctaw, I have a 15 year old Serior and 15 year old Sophomore in High School, and both are in Sports (currently VolleyBall & Football). I can promise you if I don't have family conflicts I would love to do a couple of pulls....just to see how close I can get my truck in RWHP to my 427 Cobra Replica!
Thanks for the offer, and what part of the Metroplex is the Dyno you use located?
John Russell
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I'm not trying to sound snotnosed or hateful, but both participating sides of this argument need to GET OVER THEMSELVES. Its silly; and the basics of it are even stupider than that of the oil wars. Both tuners operate basically the same; they use the same basic functions to get the same basic result; the differences are negligable, and are only even present in miniscule details to give each tuner a "different" feel. If it is worth arguing over 5-10 Hp difference, there is no reason for you people to even have tuners; by judging from your personally important few of "power" you should ALL be doing radical modifications, if its that important to you...otherwise, just stop it...its getting old now. I can say this, now especially, since I'm not running either one of them...so don't try to call me biased.
SC's dyno charts are on thier website, and have been for some time now...
SC's dyno charts are on thier website, and have been for some time now...
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PSD - you usually give a LOT of great info...
and I also could care less about which tuner...
I've said in the past - GET ONE -
any one, because it makes a great truck even better....
I investigated the SC thouroughly when I saw 150hp claims to see if it would improve on the great predator I had had for about 6 months....
I've not checked in the last few weeks, but DYNO sheets were never on SC site - now there was a little bar chart / excel spreadsheet looking thing that my 8 year old could make up, but no dyno sheets...
My problem is with the blatant one sidedness and commercialism of some post totally contradictory to the site rules...
and my perception of being "talked down to" when it is obvous where the intellect lies...
Sorry... that WILL get a response - just about every time
ok - off my soap box... back to our regularly scheduled programs
and I also could care less about which tuner...
I've said in the past - GET ONE -
any one, because it makes a great truck even better....
I investigated the SC thouroughly when I saw 150hp claims to see if it would improve on the great predator I had had for about 6 months....
I've not checked in the last few weeks, but DYNO sheets were never on SC site - now there was a little bar chart / excel spreadsheet looking thing that my 8 year old could make up, but no dyno sheets...
My problem is with the blatant one sidedness and commercialism of some post totally contradictory to the site rules...
and my perception of being "talked down to" when it is obvous where the intellect lies...
Sorry... that WILL get a response - just about every time
ok - off my soap box... back to our regularly scheduled programs
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I have been wanting to add guages to my truck, particularly EGT, and Boost. How hard is it to install on your own. Do you need to drill into the exhaust to mount the EGT sensor? Is it hard to get to? Does the boost just splice into a vaccuum line? Can anyone give me instructions on installation, and what are good guages to get? What kind of guage pod for 2 guages that is not in the way? That is all for now. I am new to the Diesel world so any info is great. Thanks
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Originally Posted by resqdawg3
Does anyone have a dyno sheet for the Predator on the +100HP mode with exhaust and intake?
Choctaw Bob has it with stock exhaust and K&N intake...
click on my name and view my gallery - it's in there...
and Bob's is in his...
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by ZUKE368
I have been wanting to add guages to my truck, particularly EGT, and Boost. How hard is it to install on your own. Do you need to drill into the exhaust to mount the EGT sensor? Is it hard to get to? Does the boost just splice into a vaccuum line? Can anyone give me instructions on installation, and what are good guages to get? What kind of guage pod for 2 guages that is not in the way? That is all for now. I am new to the Diesel world so any info is great. Thanks
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by resqdawg3
Does anyone have a dyno sheet for the Predator on the +100HP mode with exhaust and intake?
I have replaced it
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Hey Guys. I just looked at my truck to try to determine what flash was in my computer. The build date was 08/03 the truck itself is an 04. The sticker on the side of my computer was DAX1, but there was a sticker on the radiator shield that said for approved modification "PCM Reprogram - 307A-12A650-FTA - date 10/17/03". Does this mean that I have the Oct. flash. can anyone tell me what the code means.
Thanks
Thanks
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by ZUKE368
also how do you hook up a boost guage?
The MAP sensor is the gizmo that is about 1' to the left of the turbo, as you stand on the bumper, mounted to the A/C box
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by ZUKE368
Hey Guys. I just looked at my truck to try to determine what flash was in my computer. The build date was 08/03 the truck itself is an 04. The sticker on the side of my computer was DAX1, but there was a sticker on the radiator shield that said for approved modification "PCM Reprogram - 307A-12A650-FTA - date 10/17/03". Does this mean that I have the Oct. flash. can anyone tell me what the code means.
Thanks
Thanks