The 425HP 6.1 HEMI is due out next spring!
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10-10-2004, 03:47 PM
#17
10-10-2004, 08:54 PM
Originally Posted by Monsta
The 300C SRT-8, which will house the 6.1L will be in showrooms in Feb.
It will NOT have MDS from what I hear, though.
It will NOT have MDS from what I hear, though.
Originally Posted by Toreador_Diesel
That is alot of horsepower! In fact, I think it's over kill..............
Like I said before, I think it's overkill.
For a truck or an SUV, it's understandable because of the towing capability factor. But for a car, that just seems like too much.
Although I may eat my words, I'd love to see dodge make a transmission (for that car) that can stand up that kind of power and last......
Last edited by Toreador_Diesel; 10-10-2004 at 08:58 PM.
#19
10-10-2004, 11:30 PM
Originally Posted by Monsta
Dodge doesn't make the transmission. It is made by Mercedes in Kokomo, IN.
Overkill? Are you serious?
Overkill? Are you serious?
Now if it were 1200 hp and 1800ft/lbs. of torque, THAT would be overkill....or is that still not enough?
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10-12-2004, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Monsta
Torque is rated at 420 lb.-ft.
Plus I'd be willing to guess the peak torque for that Dodge motor is going to well above the 3250rpm of the Ford V10. If it's anything like the 5.7L Hemi it's going to peak over 4200rpm.
Nice for racing, weak for towing and hauling and therefore not a real truck engine in my book.
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[QUOTE=MountainHound]Only 420lb-ft? Maybe it'd make a nice 1/2 ton engine but it's pretty weak for a 3/4 or 1 ton. The 2v V10 are rated for 425lb-ft and the new 3v is at 457lb-ft. [QUOTE]
Maybe thats why its in a car, not a truck. Why is Ford even bothering w/ the 6.2 litre? the SC 5.4 in the L's is unreal enough no need to build another beefy motor.
Maybe thats why its in a car, not a truck. Why is Ford even bothering w/ the 6.2 litre? the SC 5.4 in the L's is unreal enough no need to build another beefy motor.
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#23
10-13-2004, 05:25 AM
That is alot of horsepower! In fact, I think it's over kill. Just imagine what kind of mileage the engine would get if stuffed it in the ram!
#24
10-13-2004, 02:25 PM
Tim Lamkin: "Maybe the 60's are coming back!"
Thats exactly what I'v been saying for a while now. All these big engines, with huge output are comming back in. The great thing about that is the technology to save fuel. (MDS)
The HP wars are going again. Dodge released the 500 hp Viper....... Ford released the 500 hp GT-40 ! I love it. Afterall, i am a musclecar fanatic.
For some technical info now. The 6.1 as of rigth now, an SRT engine only. Allthough I wouldn't be suprised if it made its way into the Ram 2500/3500s. They will definately put it in the trucks, sooner or later it will happen. Dodge needs a replacement for the 8.0L V10 that they dropped in 2004.
Thats exactly what I'v been saying for a while now. All these big engines, with huge output are comming back in. The great thing about that is the technology to save fuel. (MDS)
The HP wars are going again. Dodge released the 500 hp Viper....... Ford released the 500 hp GT-40 ! I love it. Afterall, i am a musclecar fanatic.
For some technical info now. The 6.1 as of rigth now, an SRT engine only. Allthough I wouldn't be suprised if it made its way into the Ram 2500/3500s. They will definately put it in the trucks, sooner or later it will happen. Dodge needs a replacement for the 8.0L V10 that they dropped in 2004.
#25
10-13-2004, 03:46 PM
Originally Posted by Monsta
Wonder if it'll go in a truck. Right now it is slated for a NEW 300C version call the SRT-8. I love that 300C...I'll have to wait for this 425hp version.
Powertrain:
The 425-horsepower, normally aspirated 6.1-liter HEMI is the highest specific-output engine ever offered by the Chrysler Group. Its 69.8 horsepower-per-liter rating exceeds even that of the legendary 1966 "Street HEMI." Torque is rated at 420 lb.-ft.
Although the Chrysler HEMI was born in the 1950s and entered into legend in the 1960s and '70s, today's version took much of its inspiration from the original - particularly the namesake hemispherical combustion chambers that provide power and efficiency.
When SRT set out to develop a more powerful HEMI for the Chrysler 300C SRT-8, they were mindful of the engine's heritage, which led to adopting traditional HEMI engine cues, such as an orange-painted cylinder block and black valve covers.
The SRT powertrain engineers who developed the Chrysler 300C SRT-8's engine achieved more horsepower by adding more cubic inches, increasing the compression ratio, redesigning the cylinder head intake and exhaust systems for increased flow, and increasing engine speed.
To get more displacement, SRT engineers bored out the diameter of the cylinders in the Chrysler 300C SRT-8's HEMI by 3.5 millimeters each, to increase the total displacement to 6.1 liters from 5.7 liters. Compression ratio was also increased to 10.3:1 from 9.6:1, unleashing more energy in the combustion process.
Engine breathing was increased with new high-flow cylinder heads, a specially designed intake manifold, and exhaust "headers" with individual tubes encased in a stainless steel shell, all unique to the 2005 Chrysler 300C SRT-8's 6.1-liter HEMI engine. Larger diameter valves and reshaped cylinder ports in the heads allow for maximized air flow. The intake manifold was designed with larger diameter runners for higher-speed tuning. Exhaust is routed through a larger-diameter (2.75-inch vs. 2.5-inch) exhaust system with 3.5-inch chrome tips.
Performance-oriented camshaft profiles were developed to balance total vehicle requirements, simultaneously allowing more air in and out of cylinders. This increases performance and manages a higher engine speed, which is another method to increase horsepower. SRT engineers increased the HEMI's peak engine speed nearly 15 percent, to 6,200 revolutions power minute (rpm) from 5,400 rpm. Intake and exhaust valve stems are hollow, and the exhaust valve stems are filled with sodium to help dissipate heat more efficiently.
The high-performance 6.1-liter HEMI is further strengthened with a host of redesigned components, including a reinforced engine block with increased coolant flow, forged steel crankshaft, high-strength powdered-metal connecting rods, floating-pin pistons (cooled by oil squirters), and an oil pan modified for reduced oil foaming.
Powertrain:
The 425-horsepower, normally aspirated 6.1-liter HEMI is the highest specific-output engine ever offered by the Chrysler Group. Its 69.8 horsepower-per-liter rating exceeds even that of the legendary 1966 "Street HEMI." Torque is rated at 420 lb.-ft.
Although the Chrysler HEMI was born in the 1950s and entered into legend in the 1960s and '70s, today's version took much of its inspiration from the original - particularly the namesake hemispherical combustion chambers that provide power and efficiency.
When SRT set out to develop a more powerful HEMI for the Chrysler 300C SRT-8, they were mindful of the engine's heritage, which led to adopting traditional HEMI engine cues, such as an orange-painted cylinder block and black valve covers.
The SRT powertrain engineers who developed the Chrysler 300C SRT-8's engine achieved more horsepower by adding more cubic inches, increasing the compression ratio, redesigning the cylinder head intake and exhaust systems for increased flow, and increasing engine speed.
To get more displacement, SRT engineers bored out the diameter of the cylinders in the Chrysler 300C SRT-8's HEMI by 3.5 millimeters each, to increase the total displacement to 6.1 liters from 5.7 liters. Compression ratio was also increased to 10.3:1 from 9.6:1, unleashing more energy in the combustion process.
Engine breathing was increased with new high-flow cylinder heads, a specially designed intake manifold, and exhaust "headers" with individual tubes encased in a stainless steel shell, all unique to the 2005 Chrysler 300C SRT-8's 6.1-liter HEMI engine. Larger diameter valves and reshaped cylinder ports in the heads allow for maximized air flow. The intake manifold was designed with larger diameter runners for higher-speed tuning. Exhaust is routed through a larger-diameter (2.75-inch vs. 2.5-inch) exhaust system with 3.5-inch chrome tips.
Performance-oriented camshaft profiles were developed to balance total vehicle requirements, simultaneously allowing more air in and out of cylinders. This increases performance and manages a higher engine speed, which is another method to increase horsepower. SRT engineers increased the HEMI's peak engine speed nearly 15 percent, to 6,200 revolutions power minute (rpm) from 5,400 rpm. Intake and exhaust valve stems are hollow, and the exhaust valve stems are filled with sodium to help dissipate heat more efficiently.
The high-performance 6.1-liter HEMI is further strengthened with a host of redesigned components, including a reinforced engine block with increased coolant flow, forged steel crankshaft, high-strength powdered-metal connecting rods, floating-pin pistons (cooled by oil squirters), and an oil pan modified for reduced oil foaming.
Best of Luck,
Corey
#28
10-13-2004, 06:36 PM
Originally Posted by Toreador_Diesel
Well, now that I've given this some serious thought, 425hp really isn't overkill.
Now if it were 1200 hp and 1800ft/lbs. of torque, THAT would be overkill....or is that still not enough?
Now if it were 1200 hp and 1800ft/lbs. of torque, THAT would be overkill....or is that still not enough?
Corey
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10-13-2004, 10:33 PM
#30
10-14-2004, 11:24 AM
Originally Posted by Toreador_Diesel
I was just exagerrating to rib at Monsta a little.......
Although I'd really like to see and drive something that has 1200 hp.
Although I'd really like to see and drive something that has 1200 hp.
You should see the rest of Troy's cars. www.radrides.com
Best of Luck,
Corey